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To: JeffA who wrote (75805)8/23/2006 12:17:25 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 173976
 
The universe is sorta complicated, wait... its a complication of complications. So there's no way to simplify it by looking at the component interactions.

That's why philosophers and scientists try to model an idea and then go looking for evidence to support it.

Entropy is the idea that things can become so randomized or dispersed that they no longer have a quality to detect their original thing. If we turn liquid water into gas, the liquid stage of water is no longer there. If we let a drop of water fall into a still pond of pure H20, the drop mixes in until it is so randomly dispersed that it can no longer be detected or be gathered back up in its original state, at which point entropy has occured.

A similar concept is singularity or singular uniformity. The energy and the matter of the drop has not been destroyed, the pond is so singular as a thing that the drop no longer exists. Where is the space that holds the drop, where is the matter of the drop? It has been lost in the pond.

The universe is mostly made up of particles separated by vast space. When particles are joined, the space separating them is non-existent, like the space that once separated the pond and the drop. We are only aware of space to the extent that we can detect the things separated in space. So matter can collapse into itself and become one uniform thing, much like the description of what happens in a Black Hole. Electric Energy and the gravity pulls everything tightly together until it is indistinguishable (singularly uniform). Once this trend is initiated it is impossible to resist. So we can imagine a condition such as this gaining so much momentum as to over ride other trends in the universe... the big collapse.

Who knows if such things actually occur but that is the logic behind it.



To: JeffA who wrote (75805)8/23/2006 12:34:31 PM
From: SeachRE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
>>in cosmological terms, carbon would be quite old and totally incapable of indicating how the universe formed.<< Wrong. You need to rethink the issue. Apples and oranges...