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To: HH who wrote (198744)	8/23/2006 12:38:17 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

That shiaa/sunni split and the arab/persian one are weaknesses that need to be exploited. I have been on a tear recently talking about US/Iran reconciliation but i dont really believe that is likely. I know we cant talk to bin laden but perhaps the non-queda sunnis are the ones we need to back. It is actually the plan given our relations with egypt, jordan and SA. Fear of a persian dominated shiaa crescent combines the two fears into one and perhaps is something that will play among both sunni nations and sunni secularists in all lands. It may also help to marginalize bin laden. Your thoughts?

To: HH who wrote (198744)	8/23/2006 12:45:04 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

'they have all the frigging oil which can humble even our mighty economy.' Maybe we need to wean ourselves off oil. Who is the world's largest oil producer?

To: HH who wrote (198744)	8/23/2006 12:52:49 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

At the same time, radical Christians and Jews and run-of-the-mill warmongers have declared war on Muslims. You guys all go into a corner, fight it out and send us a postcard to let us know who won. Oh yeah, while youse guys are spending all your time fighting each other, the fascists are cleaning out your bank account.

To: HH who wrote (198744)	8/23/2006 11:40:48 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

In my opinion, there is little doubt that the war that radical Islam has declared on the west is real. the scary thing is that it is a good war plan and potentially effective. They are effective so long as the Western nations are still caught up in this delusion called appeasement, led by the endless debating committee we call the UNSC. But the invasion of Afghanistan, as well as Iraq, has disrupted many of their plans of further attacks on the West, and has put them on the defensive. Rather than expending their resources undermining, or co-opting, the current governments in the region, they have found themselves engaged in a battle for Iraq. It's also caused them, IMO, to attempt to accelerate their agenda, in the case of Iran militant shi'ite government, as we've seen with the arming of Hizbullah, while forcing Al Qai'da to shift their focus to the horn of Africa (Somalia) as well as Iraq. But ultimately, the manner in which we win this war is to create the expectation amongst the average Arab that they should have a say in their government, and the transition of the last totalitarian regimes to either viable democracies, or constitutional monarchies. But I also believe the UNSC, and the international community at large, are going to have to "bite the bullet" and recognize that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not going to end without a settlement being imposed and enforced upon both sides. If it means having to engage in battle with anti-democratic forces in Palestine, then so be it. And we need to disarm Hizbullah and eliminate Syria and Iran's ability to destablize and subvert Lebanon's fledgling democracy. Hawk