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To: Suma who wrote (50448)	8/23/2006 4:09:11 PM
From: Geoff Altman	Respond to of 90947

Glad you found it interesting. The Mycenean culture was arguably the most developed of its day. They put as much stress on the arts as they did sciences, truly remarkable. One has to wonder where we'd be right now if the knowledge of the ancients wasn't either lost or suppressed for 500 years...

To: Suma who wrote (50448)	8/24/2006 12:59:16 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 90947

Some of what we may consider uncivilized were far superior to us many years ago.. Were they, Suma? I think you'd better study those cultures a little more closely. Human sacrifice was found in ALL Mayan settlements. Slavery was common. Warfare was the sport of the upper classes, even though the losing ruler had a choice of dying in combat or being sacrificed afterwards. Calling their medicine primitive is being kind. Even as bad as the state-run Mexican medical system is now, it is much superior to that. (A slam of socialized medicine? Not quite. In Guatemala, there is only private medicine. If you can't afford a doctor (and most people can't- -anyone who yells about income and wealth inequality here needs to see that), you do without. The horrors commonly seen there I have never seen in Mexico.) The reasons for the fall of Mayan civilization are debated and have been for decades. No one knows. The leading reasons are believed to be (a) interminable warfare, or (b) ecological collapse of agriculture because of the total use of slash-and-burn techniques. I think you need to take those rose-tinted glasses off.