To: Hawkmoon who wrote (198871 ) 8/23/2006 5:39:08 PM From: geode00 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 I said that the LAW is simply an agreement between people at a specific geographic location at a specific point in time and nothing more. If there is no agreement, there is no law. In your case, in the US of A, if someone threatened you and the keystone cops failed to to anything and you killed the person based on a threat, I suspect you would indeed go to prison for manslaughter if not murder. I'm not saying that the Law is a fair thing or a just thing, it's just an agreement between often idiotic human beings.Israel exists because they decided to exist and were willing to defend that decision to exist as a state against all enemies. ....and were willing to take land which someone else claimed as their own and were actually living on. It's an issue of two claims on the same piece of real estate. I suspect that most Israelis want to go their merry way without being at war. That was what I said was interesting about the interviews with the rank and file Israeli soldiers. OTOH, the generals, the politicos, the yammerers in many cases LOVE WAR. Some people simply love conflict. I think it's probably a mental problem of difficulty getting aroused...like people who do extreme sports. In other situations, I think people have no grounding in regular life and need something more definitive and interesting to be involved with. In other cases, people find the chaos of war highly profitable. The school or road a company builds may last for 50 years but, dang, those bombs sure get blown up and require replacement. Conflict is a chronic condition of uncivilized human beings and chimpanezees. That's why we need PROGRESS not REGRESS (is that a word?) which is why everyone should be a progressive and not a regressive. Until human beings become thoroughly civilized through education and practice, we will always be at war on one pretext or another.It would certainly be a remarkable development were the Palestinians to devote as much time and effort into creating and developing their own society, as they devote to trying to destroy Israel's. Well, you know, they had an election and both the US and Israel decided to make life as impossible as possible in order to punish the Palestinians for their democratic choices.