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To: TimF who wrote (27069)	8/23/2006 6:58:03 PM
From: see clearly now	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541326

There is so much info on the population implosion that if anyone wants they can find it better then me.. I was first twigged to it in 1985 when I visited China (one child policy)on business and similarily Japan (highest elderly percentage in the world)..its real and like the Hubert's peak oil its only a matter of a few years..this person says it is going to happen before 2050..2035 and at a rate of 25% per generation thereafter junkscience.com This one of the very best threads on SI and I follow a few out of interest in accessing good information! I am not interested in debating points (lack of time and research skills) but only wish more inovations would be surfaced as its the way we will all live a better life in this world...we are in trouble with our wasteful lifestyles, and hubris and greed dominating our decisions..we need to adapt and quickly. Ps: " But we didn't invade to get oil." this whole thread has been on the 'balance beam' to long to really believe that..if there was no oil there your leaders would not have invaded...

To: TimF who wrote (27069)	8/24/2006 11:05:41 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541326

You need to get out and see the world beyond SI. This is all starting to happen now. And agriculture is totally dependent on oil, as is the ability to move water around; like from the Ogallala Aquifer. Some headlines from the Energy Bulletin and the Oil Drum from the last few days... (and don't count on the oceans for food, either) ============= Food & agriculture - Aug 23 Staff, EB When we finally take the off ramp (from oil-fueled agriculture) / Organic farmers up against the Wal-Mart / Will the world starve in the 21st century? / Namibia: fuel hike starts to bite farmers published August 23, 2006. ====== Water scarcity - Aug 23 Staff, EB Map details global water stress / Need for Water Could Double in 50 Years, U.N. Study Finds / Scientists Call for Water Conservation published August 23, 2006. ====== Energy crises - Aug 24 Staff, EB Turkish power outages to follow if drought continues / South Africa: Cape's third energy crisis / Nepalese protests sink fuel price hikes published August 24, 2006. energybulletin.net ====================== More protests over power shortages in Bangladesh U.K.: Winter power shortages loom Namibia: Fuel Hike Starts to Bite theoildrum.com and this... Two months of global food reserves is all that's separating us from mass starvation. Message 22651645