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To: marcos who wrote (19093)	8/25/2006 11:56:49 AM
From: E. Charters	Respond to of 78410

It is now about 23 dollars a barrel to process the sands. It has gone up with the energy cost. In 1994 it was a cost of 11 dollars a barrel. I know how to get the oil out of the sand for free. Well it would entail a process cost, but it is recyclable stuff.. and there is one way to do it that is zero energy just about.. there was a similar patent on it.. that entails a wasting reagant cost but it is a lot less than the heat.. and you can make the reagant.. as a matter of fact it is self replicating in a way... The thing is they got into this heat thing... heat is cheap... you know.. well it is in in comparison to some things .... an 1890 process.. and tbey put on the fog hat after that and only looked back to see if the cable was kinked... Then there is wind.. the big wind, blade turning wind.. and they got it not far away... recyclable heat engine wind.. free turning wind.. And you could make it so it turned nearby DC motors for better conversion efficiency up and down... or take higher value wind from special places far away and do AC for transmission efficiency.. They bitch and complain and want to ship in gas from AK, but it is a mistake.. wind has come down from 40 cents a KW to 3.5 cents.. to where it is now the cheapest surest lowest environmental cost power to generate outside of sun... it is a no brainer except for its variability.. well I have a way around THAT.. and so do other people, but I would say that it the flux of wind is NOT the problem they make it out to be. You accept the losses of conversion and that can be done fairly cheaply too.. Conversion is another shelved problem that will be solved fairly efficiently probably solid state in time.. thyristors.. etc.. EC<:-}