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To: pyslent who wrote (144546)8/26/2006 12:40:05 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 152472
 
W-CDMA doesn't depend on the existence of GPRS. W-CDMA could exist quite happily if GPRS and EDGE had never seen the light of day. <The only motivation I can think of is that without GPRS, there is no WCDMA,> Irwin Jacobs didn't think that EDGE would succeed. Perhaps now we can understand why he thought it wouldn't succeed. He mistakenly didn't realize the GSM Guild bandits had made off with QCOM property which was essential to make it work.

W-CDMA would have happened a LOT faster if GPRS and EDGE hadn't been available to deliver a half-baked mobile cyberspace to users. I have had Tobago Jack right here in SI boasting about how his wonderful GPRS system makes QCOM's CDMA stuff irrelevant to his life.

If he had no email, he'd be more inclined to take a look at CDMA2000 and W-CDMA.

If W-CDMA had been as late as it was going to be [as predicted by Irwin Jacobs] and was, contrary to the blatterings of Nokia and the GSM Slimeball Guild, then there would have been a lot of pressure to get CDMA2000 rolling in 450MHz or interoperable with GSM [as in GSM1x] or somehow.

Depending on the outcome of the legal process, this might turn out to have been the biggest heist in human history.

I suspect a blunder on the part of QCOM in letting them get away with it for so long and a gradual dawning off the implications. I don't believe it was a strategy to estoppelize the GSM Guild and corner them in a patent ambush to nab royalties on standalone GSM/GPRS/EDGE. Obviously they wouldn't get away with that and worse still, what has happened would happen = GSM/GPRS/EDGE would gain huge market share.

Today I have been looking through mobile phone stores in Singapore and Nokia has a big shop in a big shopping mall with a queuing system and waiting room with about 20 people sitting in it, where people get a number and wait until number 122 [or whatever] shows up [with lots of people waiting around outside and I suppose in the vicinity]. Nokia is selling vast numbers of phones and paying QCOM diddly squat. Then there are the other shops too.

None of them seem to have heard of CDMA2000 and I can bet that none of them know that QUALCOMM is the company that has enabled them to earn a living.

Those should all be CDMA2000 phones. Singapore had no reason to adopt a dopey technological pathway like GSM/W-CDMA in the absence of GPRS/EDGE to fill the gap. They would have gone straight to CDMA2000 from GSM. Unlike the Eurozone, they didn't have a load of vested interests pushing W-CDMA and the intermediate steps [based on hijacked technology].

Mqurice