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To: tejek who wrote (11375)	8/30/2006 7:27:50 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

Having cluster bombs, or using them in war doesn't violate the Geneva convention. Carpet bombing cities with them wood, but carpet bombing cities with anything is generally considered rater questionable. It didn't stop us from doing it in WWII, but it isn't really an accepted practice today. BTW unlike Israel, Hezbollah is not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions and therefore is not required to follow them. Lebanon might be, and in theory any force from Lebanon should have to accept them, although of course the Lebanese army can't force Hezbollah to follow them. More generally a lot of the Geneva conventions only apply to wars against other countries that have ratified and follow the Geneva conventions. From the 1st Geneva convention Chapter 1 "Article 2 In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peacetime, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them." But generally the conventions should probably be respected, even if there isn't an affirmative obligation to do so. OTOH I can't find any part of any of the four Geneva conventions that outlaws cluster bombs.

To: tejek who wrote (11375)	8/30/2006 11:55:38 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71588

I see you have passed on providing evidence on why you think Israel violated the Geneva Conventions. You elected instead to pull a typical liberal trick, you feel like it is. Your argument failed without factual augmentation. "BTW unlike Israel, Hezbollah is not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions and therefore is not required to follow them.......not that that matters. The US IS a signatory but under Bush, we pretty much ignored them.........invalidating their importance in the process........not that that matters to you and Bush. If it works for you all, you'll bring them up and make a big stink like you did in this post to me." The US has not violated the Geneva Conventions. The US is a signatory of the first two, and the third and fourth are controversial with very few nations signing on. We have not violated our treaties, unlike Lebanon by allowing a terrorist proxy for a terrorist nation to operate freely within its borders. Posting egregiously false statements is not an effective way of winning people to your side.