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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (199774)8/27/2006 11:06:51 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Ichy Smith; Re: "But everyone here says israel should leave because the Muslims don't want them there."

I've certainly never said that. In general, the Neocons never said that either. What I have said is that the Jews do not have the military power required to keep control of their terrtory Jewish. Under those circumstances, if I were Jewish and living in Israel, I would seriously consider moving to the US.

-- Carl



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (199774)8/28/2006 12:56:45 AM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
But everyone here says israel should leave because the Muslims don't want them there.

Bzzzt. Wrong.

Israel can do what it likes but the US should stop being pulled around by its rightwing government. If Israel wants to remain in its neighborhood, it needs to find a way to get along with its neighbors.



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (199774)8/28/2006 4:12:05 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
But everyone here says israel should leave because the Muslims don't want them there.

Well the Indians don't want us here. Should you all pick up and leave?


The Israelis shouldn't leave, they should do exactly what America has done for the conquered Indian population. The Israelis should allow the stateless Palestinians to live among them in one country made up of Israel and the occuppied territories. The country should be renamed to have inclusionary meaning rather than exclusionary meaning (Israel is a homeland for Jews, the country should be a homeland for all the involved parties). And in the country all religions/ethnicities should be equal. No one has to leave. Palestinians get their right of return. Israelis get to stay, but lose their "Jewish homeland" since it's actually a shared land.

That's what we have done for the Indian population. The Indians are on reservations by choice, if they want to integrate into American society they are citizens and free to do so. See the difference?