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To: RealMuLan who wrote (55441)	8/27/2006 11:58:05 PM
From: regli	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

You may very well be correct regarding USDA organics. I checked again and all organics I have in the fridge from Costco and Walmart are U.S. produce. Not bad and the price is vastly better than at Whole Foods. We will see how this develops. I believe that it represents a major new trend towards adoption of organics on a large scale likely worldwide.

To: RealMuLan who wrote (55441)	8/28/2006 3:56:27 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 116555

Does "USDA organics" equals to organics made in the US? I thought foreign companies can get certified for USDA organics too? Not? Kind of funny we're talking organics... Popped in a couple of Eggos yesterday, had them all buttered up and started to pour on some of this Expensive Organic Real Maple Syrup... and out plops a green moldly skim (been a couple of weeks since I've had waffles.. ;0) That's when I discovered that Organic Syrup has to be refrigerated.. Very small mention about that on the lower side of the bottle.. But I've never refrigerated syrup before.. It's like refrigerating honey... Don't need to do it.., right? Threw out the Organic.. will never buy it again, and went out and got some Ms. Buttersworth.. Artificial as can be, but tastes damn good!! And I don't have to refrigerate it, or nuke it to warm it back up. Not big on organics overall, except Heirloom Tomatoes. And I won't shop at Whole Foods except for meat, and maybe some specialty vegatables. Hawk

To: RealMuLan who wrote (55441)	8/28/2006 5:57:13 PM
From: Incitatus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

USDA organic means that the food is government certified to use organic pesticides. In a sense, all food is organic. The term "organic" really means "organic pesticide." (Funny they didn't choose to call it "pesticide food" or "organic pesticide food" instead....) Because all food is organic as opposed to inorganic, companies can (and do) put "organic" on their food even though they use inorganic pesticides. Thus, the need for government regulation and the term USDA organic.