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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (261)9/24/2006 11:17:18 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck5 Recommendations  Respond to of 273
 
Counter Jihad.................................................

The attack on the Pope proves there is no compromise with Islam. And not just radical Islam. But Islam as a whole.

Even a moron can now see that radical Islam is an expression of Islam. Not a deviation. Their internecine warfare is no more relevant than Hitler and Stalin uniting one moment, warring the next. It is a fight between rats for the carcass of the west. And the rats always run in a pack to pursue wounded prey. Prey that fails to defend itself.

Both violence and infiltration/undermining of western civilization are part of the same Islamic supremacist strategy to enslave us. Our governments, handcuffed by liberal polititians, ignorant apologists and in the States, the ACLU and the liberal media, plays the voyeur, the cuckold. Hiding under the bedskirt of political correctness, and watching while our most basic freedom, the freedom to speak the truth, is gang-raped again and again and again.

Islam believes its 'idea' is superior. Wrapped in a head scarf of superstition disguised as religiosity, it points to the moral degeneracy of the west as proof of its superiority. In some instances our enemy is right to point out the weak underbelly of our culture. In others, it is merely a projection of their own moral depravity, pedophilia and profound mental illness. Theirs is the morality of men who molest boys in Madrassas, who place dollar bills in the G-strings of Miami strippers before boarding airplanes on suicide missions, who place bomb belts on their own women and children. It is the morality of the mob, the gang, the 'posse', the lumpen scum, the 'Arab' street. It deserves no respect. It deserves nothing less than a one way trip to the grave yard of history.

In an age where Islam possess oil billions and advanced weaponry, it is no longer enough for us to think that our more 'open' institutions, like democracy, or our compulsively cheek-turning Christianity, will save us. We need a muscular Counter-Jihad. We need thousands marching in the streets. And we need it now.

And we need our thought leaders to get past the talking stage, the 'consciousness-raising stage', and into the organizing stage.

There are hundreds of thousands, no millions of police, firefighters, soldiers, sailors and common un-afraid men who still work with their hands... who will take up this call. If they understand the stakes. If the stakes are made clear in plain English. If there is enough legitimate venom, enough legitimate 'hate' in that speech. If it is not filtered through the talk radio pundits, but through the bullhorn.

I propose a National Day of Resistance Against Islamic Fascism. A day of unity in the face of these rodents in the crawl space of civilization. A day when they will begin to see the real face of the West. And they will know that they face the same end as the first neanderthals.

It's time to get this whole issue of Islamic Supremacist Fascism past our national embarrassment called 'electoral politics', and place it in the hands of real men and women. Men and women prepared to fight to remain alive and free. Maybe then the Pope can actually say what he believes, not what his publicist tells him will play.

If you believe as I believe, post a reply. We will find each other. And we will begin. It is that simple.

I leave you with this final thought. There is an American Idea superior to the rhetoric of Islamic moral superiority. It is this idea. And it is an idea worth fighting and dying for.

'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. "

230 years later, only one thing has changed. These truths are no longer self-evident. We must make it so again.

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (261)5/12/2007 1:34:58 PM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 273
 
What Did Muhammad Say? Who Knows?
In a new book, world-renowned iconoclast and atheist Christopher Hitchens presents his brief against God and those who worship Him. His conclusion:Whether in the form of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or Wicca, "religion poisons everything"
Christopher Hitchens, National Post
Published: Wednesday, May 09, 2007
There is some question as to whether Islam is a separate religion at all. It initially fulfilled a need among Arabs for a distinctive or special creed, and is forever identified with their language and their impressive later conquests, which, while not as striking as those of the young Alexander of Macedonia, certainly conveyed an idea of being backed by a divine will until they petered out at the fringes of the Balkans and the Mediterranean. But Islam when examined is not much more than a rather obvious and ill-arranged set of plagiarisms, helping itself from earlier books and traditions as occasion appeared to require. Thus, far from being "born in the clear light of history," as Ernest Renan so generously phrased it, Islam in its origins is just as shady and approximate as those from which it took its borrowings. It makes immense claims for itself, invokes prostrate submission or "surrender" as a maxim to its adherents, and demands deference and respect from non-believers into the bargain. There is nothing-- absolutely nothing--in its teachings that can even begin to justify such arrogance and presumption.

The Prophet died in the year 632 of our own approximate calendar. The first account of his life was set down a full 120 years later by Ibn Ishaq, whose original was lost and can only be consulted through its reworked form, authored by Ibn Hisham, who died in 834. Adding to this hearsay and obscurity, there is no agreed-upon account of how the Prophet's followers assembled the Koran, or of how his various sayings (some of them written down by secretaries) became codified. And this familiar problem is further complicated -- even more than in the Christian case -- by the matter of succession. Unlike Jesus, who apparently undertook to return to Earth very soon and who (pace the absurd Dan Brown) left no known descendants, Muhammad was a general and a politician and -- though, unlike Alexander of Macedonia, a prolific father -- left no instruction as to who was to take up his mantle. Quarrels over the leadership began almost as soon as he died, and so Islam had its first major schism--between the Sunni and the Shia -- before it had even established itself as a system. We need take no side in the schism, except to point out that one at least of the schools of interpretation must be quite mistaken. And the initial identification of Islam with an earthly caliphate, made up of disputatious contenders for the said mantle, marked it from the very beginning as manmade.

It is said by some Muslim authorities that during the first caliphate of Abu Bakr, immediately after Muhammad's death, concern arose that his orally transmitted words might be forgotten. So many Muslim soldiers had been killed in battle that the number who had the Koran safely lodged in their memories had become alarmingly small. It was therefore decided to assemble every living witness, together with "pieces of paper, stones, palm leaves, shoulder-blades, ribs and bits of leather" on which sayings had been scribbled, and give them to Zaid ibn Thabit, one of the Prophet's former secretaries, for an authoritative collation. Once this had been done, the believers had something like an authorized version.

If true, this would date the Koran to a time fairly close to Muhammad's own life. But we swiftly discover that there is no certainty or agreement about the truth of the story. Some say that it was Ali -- the fourth and not the first caliph, and the founder of Shiism -- who had the idea. Many others -- the Sunni majority -- assert that it was Caliph Uthman, who reigned from 644 to 656, who made the finalized decision. Told by one of his generals that soldiers from different provinces were fighting over discrepant accounts of the Koran, Uthman ordered Zaid ibn Thabit to bring together the various texts, unify them and have them transcribed into one. When this task was complete, Uthman ordered standard copies to be sent to Kufa, Basra, Damascus and elsewhere, with a master copy retained in Medina. Uthman thus played the canonical role that had been taken, in the standardization and purging and censorship of the Christian Bible, by Irenaeus and by Bishop Athanasius of Alexandria. The roll was called, and some texts were declared sacred and inerrant while others became "apocryphal." Outdoing Athanasius, Uthman ordered that all earlier and rival editions be destroyed.

Even supposing this version of events to be correct, which would mean that no chance existed for scholars ever to determine or even dispute what really happened in Muhammad's time, Uthman's attempt to abolish disagreement was a vain one. The written Arabic language has two features that make it difficult for an outsider to learn: It uses dots to distinguish consonants like "b" and "t," and in its original form it had no sign or symbol for short vowels, which could be rendered by various dashes or comma-type marks. Vastly different readings even of Uthman's version were enabled by these variations. Arabic script itself was not standardized until the later part of the ninth century, and in the meantime the undotted and oddly voweled Koran was generating wildly different explanations of itself, as it still does. This might not matter in the case of the Iliad, but remember that we are supposed to be talking about the unalterable (and final) word of God. There is obviously a connection between the sheer feebleness of this claim and the absolutely fanatical certainty with which it is advanced. To take one instance that can hardly be called negligible, the Arabic words written on the outside of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem are different from any version that appears in the Koran.

The situation is even more shaky and deplorable when we come to the hadith, or that vast, orally generated secondary literature which supposedly conveys the sayings and actions of Muhammad, the tale of the Koran's compilation and the sayings of "the companions of the Prophet." Each hadith, in order to be considered authentic, must be supported in turn by an isnad, or chain, of supposedly reliable witnesses. Many Muslims allow their attitude to everyday life to be determined by these anecdotes: regarding dogs as unclean, for example, on the sole ground that Muhammad is said to have done so.

As one might expect, the six authorized collections of hadith, which pile hearsay upon hearsay through the unwinding of the long spool of isnads ("A told B, who had it from C, who learned it from D"), were put together centuries after the events they purport to describe. One of the most famous of the six compilers, Bukhari, died 238 years after the death of Muhammad. Bukhari is deemed unusually reliable and honest by Muslims, and seems to have deserved his reputation in that, of the 300,000 attestations he accumulated in a lifetime devoted to the project, he ruled that 200,000 of them were entirely valueless and unsupported. Further exclusion of dubious traditions and questionable isnads reduced his grand total to 10,000 hadith. You are free to believe, if you so choose, that out of this formless mass of illiterate and half-remembered witnessing the pious Bukhari, more than two centuries later, managed to select only the pure and undefiled ones that would bear examination.

The likelihood that any of this humanly derived rhetoric is "inerrant," let alone "final," is conclusively disproved not just by its innumerable contradictions and incoherencies but by the famous episode of the Koran's alleged "satanic verses," out of which Salman Rushdie was later to make a literary project. On this much discussed occasion, Muhammad was seeking to conciliate some leading Meccan polytheists and in due course experienced a "revelation" that allowed them after all to continue worshipping some of the older local deities. It struck him later that this could not be right and that he must have inadvertently been "channelled" by the Devil, who for some reason had briefly chosen to relax his habit of combating monotheists on their own ground. (Muhammad believed devoutly not just in the Devil himself but in minor desert devils, or djinns, as well.) It was noticed even by some of his wives that the Prophet was capable of having a "revelation" that happened to suit his short-term needs, and he was sometimes teased about it. We are further told -- on no authority that need be believed -- that when he experienced revelation in public he would sometimes be gripped by pain and experience loud ringing in his ears. Beads of sweat would burst out on him, even on the chilliest of days. Some heartless Christian critics have suggested that he was an epileptic (though they fail to notice the same symptoms in the seizure experienced by Paul on the road to Damascus), but there is no need for us to speculate in this way. It is enough to rephrase David Hume's unavoidable question. Which is more likely -- that a man should be used as a transmitter by God to deliver some already existing revelations, or that he should utter some already existing revelations and believe himself to be, or claim to be, ordered by God to do so? As for the pains and the noises in the head, or the sweat, one can only regret the seeming fact that direct communication with God is not an experience of calm, beauty and lucidity. - Reprinted with permission from God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything, by Christopher Hitchens. Copyright 2007 by Christopher Hitchens. Published in Canada by McLelland & Stewart.

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