To: Gib Bogle who wrote (8702 ) 8/29/2006 11:01:08 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219584 Gib, all that ratio says is who might or might not be winning. It doesn't say whether they are the aggressors or not. I hope the ratio is at least 10:1. I'd prefer 10,000:1. The bigger the ratio, the faster they'll give it away as a bad idea. At 10:1, the evil-doers might even win, given their reproduction rates. They could easily defeat Israel with a 10:1 ratio in favour of Israel. I've never had an inclination to hack up Moslems [until they started hacking up infidels who offend them by failing to obey their edicts]. But if a tiger decides to have dinner, one is not invited to the table, it's compulsory. One either fights back or flees. If there's nowhere to run, then what? It's fight or be eaten. Being eaten doesn't suit me. So? They are arriving in NZ with their ideology. We already have an MP who is pushing his ideology. If he gets the numbers, his laws will pass. To keep their Moslem voters happy, politicians will push to get Islamic laws introduced as long as they don't offend the rest too much. Ramadan for example - nobody should eat. That would help with the obesity problem in NZ. Cut off their hands if they do, or at least flog them, if not decapitate. Enoch Powell long long ago pointed out what would happen with opened floodgates. Making predictions about decades from now is always tricky, but it seems he was more correct than his opponents who thoughtlessly wrote him off as racist. I admit I was one who was all in favour of an eclectic society with all in together. Silly me. I plead ignorant youth. Long ago, Britain shut the gates when the flood became huge. Too late, the Pakistani Islamic Jihadists are now as English as the English, other than culturally, and are into the second and third generation and are now blowing up the buses when they get a chance. They'd blow up the aircraft too if they could. They are more English than I and my children are. Britain won't allow our daughter to live and work there, though her grandparents fought for the Empire and British freedom from German tyranny. But there are swarms of others who have no cultural empathy with tea, scones and clotted cream who have taken over there. Mqurice PS: On reflection, a bit of Sharia law would go well in NZ as far as I'm concerned. Hmmm. Maybe I should convert and help get some head-hacking going - there are lots of candidates in the prisons and on the loose.