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To: Mike Johnston who wrote (69089)8/30/2006 10:20:20 AM
From: John Vosilla  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
'Stock market likes inflation as long as it does not cause bond yields to rise.

Given current inflation 10yr yield should be at 8-10%.'

Well something has to give. Perhaps a serious recession with some moderation in inflationary pressures is what the next few years hold? Then we perhaps get the 8-10% long end on the next worldwide recovery? Maybe 1973-80 is just around the corner?



To: Mike Johnston who wrote (69089)8/30/2006 4:17:16 PM
From: 8bits  Respond to of 110194
 
"Given current inflation 10yr yield should be at 8-10%."

I tend to think if the Japanese, Chinese, and the oil producing states were to drop their position of vendor financing (buying US debt with their surplus US dollars..) we would see these yields or higher. Of course the US government could get it's act together and not run a deficit. It's always nice to dream of rational behavior.



To: Mike Johnston who wrote (69089)8/30/2006 4:34:49 PM
From: bart13  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 

Yes, this is a mother of all conundrums.
What are bond traders smoking ?


Some large percentage of it is due to "Fed management". Check how moves in the 10 year are preceded by changes in rates of change of Fed securities lending and also that they were trying for a long time to pull rates down during the last year or so: