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To: bentway who wrote (200193)	8/30/2006 11:33:28 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

it's really incredible the problems these people cause to world wide stability, peace and the price of oil. Um, Jewish people don't believe that we "cause" the problems. We believe that those who didn't accept the partition plan back in '48 are the ones who have caused the problem. Against great odds, the state of Israel not only was constituted, but has more or less thrived. They have a more robust and integrated society than any Arab country of any size, despite the fact that the only thing the citizens have in common is being Jewish. They come from many parts of the world, most of them not speaking Hebrew. There are almost no natural resources in the country. They are in a constant state of military preparedness and a near constant state of being attacked. Yet the society continues. Not without problems, but a lot fewer problems and a more legitimate and accountable government than virtually any Arab govt, though most of those countries have relative homogeneous populations and oil wealth. And yet you blame Jews for causing problems to "world wide stability, peace and the price of oil? And no doubt wonder why Jews believe the term "Jewish paranoia" is an oxymoron?

To: bentway who wrote (200193)	8/30/2006 11:53:46 AM
From: neolib	Respond to of 281500

It would be a massive effort, but I really think the world's interests would be served by relocating Israel to the Falklands. Allowing the creation of Israel in Palestine was a mistake, but it's not too late to fix it. Not going to happen. However, we might possibly solve two problems with one stone here, if we built a reasonable island in the Indian ocean on a seamount using calcium carbonate with the carbon absorbed out of the atmosphere. Solve global warming and have world peace! Heck, why be modest, just think, if they made it 1500 miles (IIRC??) cubed, sitting like a giant wart on the earth, they could call it the New Jerusalem, and all the evangelicals in the USA would be happy as pigs in shit. Think of the number of condos you could stuff in a structure that size! Heck, we could thin the population in the Bible Belt of the USA out of retirees (who could resist the desire to actually live in the New J?), and S. Florida might be a nice place to live once more for the rest of us.