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To: TimF who wrote (27436)	8/30/2006 2:53:58 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541761

You may think it is silly, but it's pretty much a direct quote from Fiasco, which I bet you haven't read yet. He has military historians, on the record, who say it. Read the book.

To: TimF who wrote (27436)	8/30/2006 4:07:20 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541761

"At least 66 dead in violence around Iraq" news.yahoo.com Just another day in Iraq. That makes 200 killed this week -- so far. As for the issue of "planning", it would be hard to find a more dismal failure than Iraq -- the invasion was doomed before it began as it had no legitimacy and lacked even basic common sense in terms of the inability from day one to establish even the most basic civil order. From the first day the looting started -- back when the tanks rolled into town -- the invasion of Iraq had two wheels in the ditch and a drunk driver at the wheel. The seeds of the carnage that has followed was in no small part a direct result of the grand stupidity of the architects of the invasion itself, and not merely a failure of the US army of occupation. That Rumsfeld was not fired years ago is testimony to the widespread acceptance of gross incompetence within this Administration.