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To: Dale Baker who wrote (27501)8/30/2006 7:01:33 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541379
 
I have been away, and absence always reminds me of how very tiny our world is here on SI, made up as it is of people who follow the news minutely and opine on the most arcane of topics.

ON my return flight, I was sitting next to a nicely dressed woman who turned out to be married to a 777 pilot. She was college educated, well-spoken and intelligent, and we were talking in that casual way you tend to on a trip when she mentioned that she had a liquid confiscated from her carry-on. She had no idea why. When I said something about the Heathrow incident, she had no idea what I was talking about. She didn't KNOW. I was stunned. A pilot's wife! I must have looked aghast, because she proceeded to give me a list of what she does (works, raises kids, etc)and why she doens't have time to follow the news.

In our dissections and analyses we should never forget that this is, at the core, a huge country made up of people who believe in America and who will fight to the death for her if we believe her truly threatened. This includes most of us, right AND left. What we argue here is often just persiflage, important but ultimately not nearly as important as we seem to think it is, and not the definition of us as a people that some believe. To try to define US from either the political garbage we hear, or from what we read on SI is going to be completely misleading imo.



To: Dale Baker who wrote (27501)8/30/2006 11:43:04 PM
From: MrLucky  Respond to of 541379
 
The first words of my post went something like this: "I am of the opinion...."

Unless you can show me otherwise, I don't believe there is an SI requirement that mandates a source for each expressed "opinion".

Regarding the who in your post. We were (at least I was) talking about the muslim extremists and terrorists all day so I guess it must be allegiance to islam.

Pray that you never see the "plenty".



To: Dale Baker who wrote (27501)9/2/2006 6:51:13 PM
From: MrLucky  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541379
 
Al-Qaeda urges Americans to convert

Saturday 02 September 2006, 22:28 Makka Time, 19:28 GMT

Al-Zawahiri has released several video appeals in recent months

Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's number two, and an American Muslim convert have appeared in a video issued by al-Qaeda urging Americans to convert to Islam.

Al-Zawahiri, and the American convert identified as Adam Gadahn, called for Americans to convert to Islam in the 41-minute video posted on an Islamist website just nine days before the fifth September 11 anniversary.
The FBI says that the man who appeared next to al-Zawahiri attended al-Qaeda training schools in Pakistan and served as a translator for al-Qaeda.

It was the second time Gadahn has appeared with al-Zawahiri. The first was on a video posted on July 7, marking the one-year anniversary of London underground bombings, when Gadahn said no Muslim should "shed tears" for Westerners killed by al-Qaeda attacks.

Gadahn and al-Zawahiri did not appear together in the footage. Gadahn spoke with his face uncovered, resembling the FBI photos, with his name subtitled in English and Arabic as "Azzam the American".

"We invite all Americans and unbelievers to Islam," Gadahn said, dressed in a white robe and turban with a long, thick black beard and a computer terminal in the background.

Wanted by FBI

Gadahn, a 28-year-old from California who converted to Islam, is wanted by the FBI in connection with possible terrorist threats against the US, though the agency says it has no information linking him to any specific terrorist activities.

Gadahn spoke for much of the video, saying he wanted to correct the incorrect image Americans have of IslamGadahn (bottom, 2nd from L) is
wanted by the FBI for threats


He described the "West" as the civilisation which enslaved Africa, slaughtered native Americans and bombed Tokyo, Falluja and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.



He said it shows more concern for archaeological sites, like statues of Buddha destroyed by Afghanistan's former Taliban rulers, "than it shows of the people of Afghanistan and Iraq".



He said: "ignorance of Islam causes the people of the West to rapturously applaud when Israel perpetrates wholesale slaughter of Muslims in Lebanon and Palestine and leads them to give their consent to the atrocities that governments commit in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere in the Muslim world".

The video, issued by al-Qaeda's production wing As-Sahab, had been advertised on militant websites for several days before it appeared on Saturday.

Besides the July 7 video, Gadahn is believed to be a masked figure who appeared in two unofficial videos given to the American television network ABC in Pakistan in 2004 and a few days before September 11, 2005.

In the 2005 tape, the speaker threatened new terror attacks in Los Angeles and Melbourne, Australia.

The 2004 tape praised the September 11 attacks and said a new wave of attacks could come at any moment.