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To: GST who wrote (200328)8/30/2006 8:19:08 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Okay as promised, I've pulled together the posts in which you demonstrate beyond all doubt that you're a liar with a powerful anti-American bias as well as a slavish ass-licker of the Communist Chinese government (which per your own admission elsewhere is how you make your living). Enjoy:

Here are the posts where you made a factual claim that the US intentionally bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19137751
To:moenmac who wrote (107409)
From: GST
Wednesday, Jul 23, 2003 12:47 PM
View Replies (2) | Respond to of 108097
We intentionally bombed the Chinese embassy -- I think is was the wrong thing to do, but it was no accident. I give credit to China for showing maturity on that issue and not triggering a bigger, uglier and more long-lived response. Can you imagine what we would do if China bombed one of our embassies?

Message 19138164
To:moenmac who wrote (107449)
From: GST
Wednesday, Jul 23, 2003 2:07 PM
View Replies (1) | Respond to of 108097
An American embassy is American soil. To intentionally bomb an embassy is to intentionally attack a country on its own soil. That is what we did to China. The Chinese took it in stride, although it leaves a very negative impression. If China intentionally bombed us on our own soil, the feelings and attitudes of hostility that would be unleashed towards China would last a lifetime. It would be reflected in all of our policy decisions and the hawks would call for war every day of the week.


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In this post you repeat your factual assertion and represent that you know the secret inside truth because of your "multiple sources on the US side":

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19139754
To:Brumar89 who wrote (107571)
From: GST
Wednesday, Jul 23, 2003 8:10 PM
View Replies (1) | Respond to of 108097
The motive was to send a signal to China not to play any role in the conflict. It was not an accident. I have multiple sources on the US side and I know for a fact that the Chinese did not think it was an accident because I had the "pleasure" of discussing it with them.


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Here are three posts in which you admit your factual claims based on "multiple sources on the US side" were lies and admit your "multiple sources" were just some fellow blame-America-firsters like yourself "suggesting" to you it was "likely true".

In the first you also lie about your prior posts - the real point of them was that you KNEW the bombing was not accidental, but intentional. You were stridently clear on that:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19145118
To: Brumar89 who wrote (107885) 7/25/2003 2:38:38 AM
From: GST Read Replies (1) of 200340
I make no charge against Clinton, I only know what people believe. My sources on the US side surprised me by suggesting it was likely true -- but I do not have hard evidence and make no firm first-hand claim. The point of my post was simply this: Whatever happened, China is convinced it was intentional. That much I know from my direct experience at the time.


In the second of these posts you lie about your previous posts in which you did, in fact, make a charge against the US. Naturally, you were pretty embarrassed by this and tried to change the subject to divert attention:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19148214
To: Brumar89 who wrote (107943) 7/25/2003 8:34:29 PM
From: GST Read Replies (1) of 200340
I did not make a charge, I told you what is widely believed and was thoroughly discussed. It certainly does not revolve around me personally -- my knowledge is specific only to the Chinese reaction because I was there and played a minor role in communications. If you are interested in finding out what is going on, you should be showing some interest in where these Niger forgeries came from and who did the forging and promoting of them in the first place. If they came from Washington, I assume it would be treason.



In this last one you lie that you "would never say to the Chinese, "ya, we hit you on purpose". We know that's a lie because you have already said that on the internet to the entire world - should we believe you wouldn't say face-to-face what you have posted on the internet?:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19149983
To: Brumar89 who wrote (108218) 7/26/2003 5:26:50 PM
From: GST Read Replies (1) of 200340
Good grief, I would never say to the Chinese, "ya, we hit you on purpose". Get a grip. If we did hit their embassy on purpose (and I know of no conclusive information one way or the other, although it was officially investigated), then it was most likely for the reasons I mentioned. And if that was the case, then neither the US nor China would want to make too much of it. China would not wan a lengthy discussion if they were in fact interfering, and we would not want a lengthy discussion if we responded with a "warning" attack. I will never know if it was intentional -- I only know what the Chinese thought at the time, and the rumblings from others in the aftermath.


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To sum up, this string of posts show you lying that you KNEW something you didn't know, then admitting you didn't know it at all (that is a confession you had lied) and then telling new lies about about your previous posts and about what you would be willing to say to the Chinese. All in all, I'd say you have exposed yourself - no reasonable person reading that string of posts can have any doubt at all that you're a confessed liar and completely untrustworthy.