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To: Sully- who wrote (22605)9/1/2006 12:50:39 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
AP takes the hatchet to Rumsfeld speech

Posted by: McQ
The QandO Blog
August 29, 2006

****UPDATED: AP has apparently edited the original article. See update below.****

Interesting little side by side here. Donald Rumsfeld gave a speech to the American Legion. You can read it at the link below. Robert Burns from AP reported on the speech. You can read it at the link below. Below are some comparisons from the story and the speech.

1. What AP says Rumsfeld said:

<<< Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administration's Iraq and counterterrorism policies of trying to appease "a new type of fascism." >>>


What Rumsfeld said:


<<< I recount this history because once again we face the same kind of challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism.

Today, another enemy — a different kind of enemy — has also made clear its intentions — in places like New York, Washington, D.C., Bali, London, Madrid, and Moscow. But it is apparent that many have still not learned history’s lessons.

We need to face the following questions:

* With the growing lethality and availability of weapons, can we truly afford to believe that somehow vicious extremists can be appeased?

* Can we really continue to think that free countries can negotiate a separate peace with terrorists?

* Can we truly afford the luxury of pretending that the threats today are simply “law enforcement” problems, rather than fundamentally different threats, requiring fundamentally different approaches?

* And can we truly afford to return to the destructive view that America — not the enemy — is the real source of the world’s trouble?

These are central questions of our time. And we must face them. >>>

2. What AP says Rumsfeld said:

<<< In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration's critics as suffering from "moral or intellectual confusion" about what threatens the nation's security and accused them of lacking the courage to fight back. >>>


What Rumsfeld said:


<<< Over the next decades, a sentiment took root that contended that if only the growing threats that had begun to emerge in Europe and Asia could be appeased, then the carnage and destruction of then-recent memory of World War I might be avoided. It was a time when a certain amount of cynicism and moral confusion set in among the western democracies. When those who warned about a coming crisis — the rise of fascism and Nazism — were ridiculed and ignored.

Indeed, in the decades before World War II, a great many argued that the fascist threat was exaggerated — or that it was someone else’s problem. Some nations tried to negotiate a separate peace — even as the enemy made its deadly ambitions crystal clear.

It was, as Churchill observed, a bit like feeding a crocodile, hoping it would eat you last.

There was a strange innocence in views of the world. Someone recently recalled one U.S. Senator’s reaction in September 1939, upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II. He exclaimed:

"Lord, if only I could have talked with Hitler, all this might have been avoided.”

Think of that!

[...]

And in every army, there are occasionally bad actors — the ones who dominate the headlines today — who don’t live up to the standards of their oath and of our country.

But you also know that they are a small percentage of the hundreds of thousands of honorable men and women in all theaters in this struggle who are serving with humanity and decency in the face of constant provocation.

And that is important in this “long war,” where any kind of moral and intellectual confusion about who and what is right or wrong can severely weaken the ability of free societies to persevere. >>>

3. What AP says Rumsfeld said:

<<< Rumsfeld recalled a string of recent terrorist attacks, from 9/11 to bombings in Bali, London and Madrid, and said it should be obvious to anyone that terrorists must be confronted, not appeased. >>>


What Rumsfeld said:


<<< Today, another enemy — a different kind of enemy — has also made clear its intentions — in places like New York, Washington, D.C., Bali, London, Madrid, and Moscow. But it is apparent that many have still not learned history’s lessons.

We need to face the following questions:

* With the growing lethality and availability of weapons, can we truly afford to believe that somehow vicious extremists can be appeased? >>>

4. What AP says Rumsfeld said:

<<< "But some seem not to have learned history's lessons," he said, adding that part of the problem is that the American news media have tended to emphasize the negative rather than the positive. >>>


What Rumsfeld said:


<<< But this is still — in 2006 — not well recognized or fully understood. It seems that in some quarters there is more of a focus on dividing our country, than acting with unity against the gathering threats.

We find ourselves in a strange time:

* When a database search of America’s leading newspapers turns up 10 times as many mentions of one of the soldiers at Abu Ghraib who was punished for misconduct, than mentions of Sergeant First Class Paul Ray Smith, the first recipient of the Medal of Honor in the Global War on Terror;

* When a senior editor at Newsweek disparagingly refers to the brave volunteers in our Armed Forces as a “mercenary army”;

* When the former head of CNN accuses the American military of deliberately targeting journalists and the former CNN Baghdad bureau chief admits he concealed reports of Saddam Hussein’s crimes when he was in power so CNN could stay in Iraq; and

* It is a time when Amnesty International disgracefully refers to the military facility at Guantanamo Bay, which holds terrorists who have vowed to kill Americans and which is arguably the best run and most scrutinized detention facility in the history of warfare, as “the gulag of our times.”

Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions being told about our troops and our country.

The struggle we are in is too important — the consequences too severe — to have the luxury of returning to the old mentality of “Blame America First.” >>>


In example one, it is apparent, at least to me, that Rumsfeld wasn't at all accusing anyone of anything. He was instead saying these questions need to be asked and answered by everyone, to include those who disagree with the administration. But there isn't an accusation against anyone within that portion of his speech.

Example two shows no "accusation" with the phrase "moral and intellectual confusion." In fact he's talking about our military when he uses the phrase. "Moral confusion" is also found in the speech where he discussed the history leading up to WWII. However it is never addressed to the administration's critics.

Additionally, "courage" is found one time in the speech and it is addressing something completely different:


<<< "And one day, a future speaker may reflect back on this time of historic choice — remembering the questions raised as to our country’s courage, dedication, and willingness to continue this fight until we have prevailed.". >>>


Nowhere is anyone "accused" of "lacking the courage to fight back."

Example three again puts words in Rumsfeld's mouth. He never said it should be obvious that confrontation was preferable to appeasement. He instead asked a question for others to answer for themselves.

Example four is the least egregious of the four. Emphasis is mine. While he never comes right out and says "the American news media have tended to emphasize the negative rather than the positive" that message could be taken from his presentation. But as presented by AP, it sounds like a specific accusation, when it wasn't at all. So at best it is an exaggeration and at worst a mischaracterization of what Rumsfeld said.

I'm not sure why I felt compelled to compare the speech with the story, but for some reason the story just didn't sound right. And, as you can see, it wasn't. "Infer" does not mean the same as "accuse" especially when the inference wasn't really at all evident. When you say someone accuses another, it means something to most of us. I defy anyone to find an accusation within that speech which fits the descriptions found in Mr. Burns' article.

UPDATE: CNN repeats the story unedited and obviously, unchecked. Forbes as well. Ditto for ABC and Fox. And you wonder how myths and memes get started?

UPDATE II: AP has edited the original story. Yesterday the story had the following lead paragraph:


<<< Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administration's Iraq and counterterrorism policies of trying to appease "a new type of fascism." >>>


Now the lead paragraph says:


<<< Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday the world faces "a new type of fascism" and warned against repeating the pre-World War II mistake of appeasement. >>>


Additionally this paragraph has gone missing as well:


<<< In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration's critics as suffering from "moral or intellectual confusion" about what threatens the nation's security and accused them of lacking the courage to fight back. >>>


To be replaced by these:


<<< Rumsfeld alluded to critics of the Bush administration's war policies in terms associated with the failure to stop Nazism in the 1930s, "a time when a certain amount of cynicism and moral confusion set in among the Western democracies."

Without explicitly citing Bush critics at home or abroad, he said "it is apparent that many have still not learned history's lessons." Aides to Rumsfeld said later he was not accusing the administration's critics of trying to appease the terrorists but was cautioning against a repeat of errors made in earlier eras. >>>


Well imagine that.

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To: Sully- who wrote (22605)9/2/2006 1:58:15 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
DEM HARA-KIRI

BITING ON RUMMY'S BAIT

John Podhoretz
NEW YORK POST
Opinion
September 1, 2006

THE Bush administration's decision to come out swinging in discussing the war in Iraq and its larger role in the War on Terror has been widely derided in the media - on both Left and Right. The key focus of the attack thus far has been Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's denunciation of the media's concentration on the bad news in Iraq.

The very liberal Los Angeles Times editorial page actually demanded that Rumsfeld "pipe down." On the other side, Rod Dreher, a former columnist for this paper and a harsh conservative critic of the administration, found Rumsfeld's speech "simply disgraceful."

Though President Bush's first speech in a new series of addresses on the war in Iraq yesterday was merely a repetition of the themes he's been hammering home for three years now, you can expect the attack to include him very soon - not least for sending out the attack dogs in the form of Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney.

What's interesting here is that you might think some critics of the war would welcome the administration's decision to argue a very public case for it, since they also believe the American people agree with them about the mishandling of all things Iraq.
After all, Bush's choice puts the philosophical basis for the war in Iraq up for discussion yet again - and supposedly at a very opportune time for Democrats in particular.

Isn't this the discussion they want?
If the American people are so unhappy with the war and Bush and Rumsfeld, won't the new focus cause their unhappiness to deepen? And if Rummy is willing to engage his critics as forcefully as he has, doesn't that give his critics leeway to let him have it with both barrels?

After all, we have been told for months that Republican politicians running for reelection are desperate to change the subject to something else, anything else, that they fear Iraq will drag them to certain defeat.

One gets the sense that many conservative critics of the administration ought to be pleased with this turn of events as well, since they appear to desire a Republican rout at the polls in November to punish the party for what they take to be Congressional fecklessness about military matters, immigration and free spending.

And yet they're not.

The key emotion engendered by Rumsfeld's speech and presumably by Bush's speeches in the days and weeks to come is rage. Rage that he would be so aggressive. Rage that he would presume to lecture anyone on what American troops might need from the media and what responsibilities the media might have in wartime. Rage that he is even opening his mouth at all.

Or is it, at least in some cases, fear?
Fear that, once again, Bush is going to convince enough Americans that the cause is just to prevent a bloodbath of GOP politicians in November? Fear that he is going to rally the Republican base, remind it that there is something noble going on in Iraq and Afghanistan and that much of America's political and media elite is dismissive of it?

Make no mistake: The fear is real. Otherwise, why wouldn't Bush's political opponents be welcoming their chance to help the president and Rumsfeld walk themselves to the political slaughterhouse? All they need do is speak respectfully of the cause and convincingly about the inability of Bush and his team to do the cause justice.

By being respectful of Bush's twin themes of promoting democracy and fighting Islamofascism, critics might get the upper hand. But they can't even fake the respect, and so they are leaving Bush & Co. with a free hand to make a serious case while editorial pages argue, in all seriousness, that the secretary of defense should shut his yapper.

jpodhoretz@gmail.com

nypost.com



To: Sully- who wrote (22605)9/2/2006 2:01:47 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
BUSH MAKES HIS CASE

NEW YORK POST
Editorial
September 1, 2006

Anyone who thinks the War on Terror, now almost five years old, is nearing its end is mistaken. That was the message President Bush sent the nation - and the world - yesterday.

"This war will be difficult," Bush said at an American Legion convention, as he kicked off a series of speeches on the fight ahead. "This war will be long."

But the president vowed, with typical resolve, that the "war will end in the defeat of the terrorists and totalitarians."

The truth? Enormous dangers persist for the civilized world, despite considerable progress in the War on Terror.

Not that the partisan critics care.

"The American people know that, five years after 9/11, we are not as safe as we should and could be," Senate Democrat Leader Harry Reid said yesterday.

Not as safe as we should be?

Well, isn't that the whole point?

That danger must be confronted.

America's enemies, Bush said, "come from different parts of the world, and they take inspiration from different sources." He pointed to "radicalized followers of the Sunni tradition," like al Qaeda's adherents. Shia terrorists, like those of Hezbollah, who "take guidance from state sponsors like Syria and Iran."

He cited "homegrown" terrorists - "fanatics who live quietly in free societies they dream to destroy." And he took special note of Iran's defiance in refusing to curb its nuclear program and in sponsoring terror.

These disparate groups, Bush said, "form the outlines of a single movement, a worldwide network of radicals that use terror to kill those who stand in the way of their totalitarian ideology."

Which is why the War on Terror, he added, is not just a military conflict, but "the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century."

Still think the war's almost over?

At the heart of the fight right now, of course, is Iraq - what Bush termed "the central front in our fight against terrorism." Failure there, Bush said bluntly, would be "disastrous."

"We would be handing Iraq over to our worst enemies," including "terrorists from all over the world who would suddenly have a base of operations far more valuable than Afghanistan under the Taliban." Iraq would become "a new sanctuary to recruit and train terrorists at the heart of the Middle East, with huge oil riches to fund their ambitions."

The result, in short order: "terrorists in the streets of our own cities."

But, again - even as pols call for U.S. troop withdrawals and estimates of when Iraqi forces can take over - it's clear that the war's end, even just in Iraq, is not at hand.

"Victory in Iraq will be difficult," Bush acknowledged, "and it will require more sacrifice." He compared the intensity of the fight to that of Omaha Beach and Guadalcanal.

But victory will pay off.

Whatever your views, it's hard to argue with the president about one thing: America can't quit now - even if it wants to. The only real options are winning - and losing.

More tough times ahead, yes.

But there is no choice save to fight.

nypost.com