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To: MrLucky who wrote (27580)	8/31/2006 10:42:31 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 543150

You are incorrect about Saddam. It's very clear now that Saddam's weapons programs stopped in 1991 and were not reconstituted. He was effectively contained. No new programs or new weapons were found in Iraq, even though in this unusual instance we had time to ransack the country looking for them. None of the "intelligence", from questionable sources, with regard to hidden labs and hidden repositories turned out to be true. The UN's containment of Saddam would appear to be a classic case of success, which was turned in to failure by this administrations devotion to bad intelligence, and their anxiousness to go to war. A very poor example. On top of that the containment wasn't just talking. It had a huge component of aerial bombardment. I believe the tonnage dropped on Iraq during the "no fly" period, entually surpassed the tonnage dropped on Vietnam. Hardly an example of "talking". I don't know what your point is with regard to NK. Talking seems to work just fine. They haven't actually done anything, except to their own people, and we don't really have an alternative to talking, since the country is on China's doorstep, and is really China's problem. Did you think something other than talking should be tried on NK? If so, what? For talking to cease to be the best idea, you need an alternative. I guess you think invading Iraq was superior to the continued containment (consisting of negotiations, inspections, sanctions and bombing). I can't say I agree with you, and history will probably judge this invasion harshly.

To: MrLucky who wrote (27580)	8/31/2006 10:49:25 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543150

Hi there Mr. L... I am not Eleutheria and did not ask that question but I appreciate your personal response... addressed to me. I get mixed up on this thing too. AND like Euterpe I sometimes write a post and want to delete it and it gets posted... Us oldsters do strange things sometimes... Everyday I amaze myself more. ML