To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (1246 ) 9/1/2006 8:29:19 AM From: thames_sider Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1695 I don't especially distinguish between the behavioural changes wrought by technology and progress generally: all have and do require particular 'evolutionary' behaviours to adapt. We've been learning how to advance from the primitive in every other sphere, so I can't see why not in the specific area of sexually stereotypical behaviour. I don't think we need evolution to rule us here, any more than it tells us how to pilot a jet, give a lecture, or indeed debate on a bulletin board. (I can't really comment on the need or otherwise for Jungian comment... I don't know enough about this field to judge). I agree that there almost certainly are differences in our natural adaptations and preferences, but I don't see why I need to be limited by these any more than I am in any other sphere. Additionally, I think most of our sexual archetypcal behaviour is almost certainly learned not evolved anyway, and will have been learnt for adaptation to societal models. But we don't live in a hunter-gatherer society now, nor Norse longhuts, nor (mostly) in tribal patriarchal despotisms - so I do not see why we need to cling to the societal restrictions of these when we've moved on from those societies. Pick out the good points, by all means - but not keep the whole kit and caboodle. As for why I'm "so ready to buy in", or "what's in it for me" - I don't think it's right to impose restrictions on a part of society simply because something used to be so. Be it women, slaves or serfs. Maybe I, individually, stand to lose some perks and privileges... but I'm sure I'll gain, societally and at least in the company I keep :-)