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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1285)	9/2/2006 10:54:10 AM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 1695

Clinton's reforms were one of his best accomplishments, imo. There were attempts made when I was working in the late 70s to offer training and oppoortunities (hey, that was a typo, but it's kind of a pun so I'll leave it), but we could get very few of our clients to enter the work program. It wasn't mandatory, so why should they? If I remember correctly, the deal was that you worked, and if it didn't equal the ADC payment, the govt made up the diff. Well, that seemed silly to them. Why not take the payment and NOT work? I have been out of the system for 25 years (yikes, I;m old). I just went and skimmed the reauthorization of the program passed in 2003. It sounds as if the Senate committee didn't allow it to be weakened. I hope I read correctly. Those are excellent results. Still need better childcare. They did propose some sort of marriage reward. That was good. I've been thinking about the traditional morality thing. It's one of those terms that (imo) has lost its broader meaning and been usurped by the Christian right in this country, the Moral Majority usage, and I fell prey to that interpretation. The more you have written about it, the more I see you are talking about it in the broadest sense as a rational code of conduct that most of us accept, basically a do no harm to others without the addition of the supernatural or absolute thrown in. Along with that, the discussion has wandered on this thread to the greater good kind of morality- (e.g., does gay marriage do more harm than good to the family) Since I agree with that definition in general, maybe we are now starting at the same place.