To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (19956 ) 9/3/2006 11:10:21 PM From: E. Charters Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78408 Less board now that I am talking to you. 66, but never 49. I got some kicks on route, 66. As far south as Akron. Saw all the little girls with their pouty lips in Cleveland, Ohio. How board are you? P.S. if you want to start a gold mine, according to jackjc, you first have to own a silver mine. I wouldn't doubt it. Or a moly mine. I could start a small gold mine or silver mine. Cheapest I can do it is just south of one million dollars. It would make that much a year. Probably not as much as a chain of coffee houses, but it would do alright at these gold prices. I am sure everybody has heard stories about California gold. I am not sure they really know what it really was all about. In fact the whole US gold rush was sold to the public later as a fortuitous discovery and a wild free for all. In fact the US geological survey was in the area in 1847 and made reports about it being favourable for gold because of the high amount of hydrothermal quartz being found in the nearby hills of the American river area. When Sutter's men were building the tail race of the mill, the foreman and some Carolina gold prospectors, including one women who was pivotal as she had run gold placer operations in Carolina before, decided to modify the tail race to wash gravel for gold. They knew what they were looking for. When they found it, it was not a surprise. It was a "tail" of a sluice box and it was plain as day. The foreman had looked a the schists in the river and reasoned that they looked similar to other rivers he had seen that carried gold in other places. The boiling the gold with lye was a prospector's technique and formality that they applied to prove their case. What we hear in the press and the accounts of the day is the blarney that goes with layman's descriptions of mining stuff. It did not happen like that. People were looking for gold and finding some here and there all over Calfornia a priori. It was the richness of the find that caused the rush. Also the mining camps far from being wild and wooly as you might see in Hollywood movies were very orderly and calm. They had to be or the miners would have been robbed on a continual basis. There were some famous robber of gold coaches which left the valleys from San Francisco as in Black Bart but by and large peace rained in the valleys. What makes me laugh is that there is not one historical account of the gold rush in US movies or books that is truthful or engineering and mining knowledgeable. All we have is BS like Treasure of the Sierra Madre. It is wildly interesting the story of the development of the placers and the boost it gave to american engineering prowess. Basically all worldwide water pumping, pipelining, and large scale mining machinery building started there. Without the American river there would have been now LeTourneau, no Howard Hughes and no Seventh fleet. There had already been three or four goldrushes in the United States, and much gold and silver mining in nearby Mexico. The Spanish had mined placer gold and underground gold in California for centuries already. There were so many people in the area that knew about how to recover gold, that within a month of two of the find, the hills were swarming with people operating rockers and sluices. You don't get handed that info as to how to build and operate these machines without some training. The mormons were all gold-diggers as they came from gold country. Panning for gold was an art that was gold when they declared the bill of rights. Cornish and Spanish miners populated the States from New York to California as far back as 1650. The all brought standard iron pans with them they used to pan hard rock veins in the old country and had used them since the Romans conquered Spain and Britain. They never found the motherlode? 100,000,000 ounces came out of the Motherlode district in California. What shut US placer mining down and eventually underground lode mining too in California, were two factors. A "downstream effect" environmental court decision in 1920, and 35 dollar gold in 1934. We know that Omaha was opened up by Jackson to gold prospecting to get the US out of a depression. The whole affair in California might have got a secret kick start from the government who had the US geological report on its desk in order to encourage southward immigration and make California come into the Union.online.ohlone.edu EC<:-}