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To: neolib who wrote (201180)	9/4/2006 8:04:03 PM
From: GPS Info	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hello neolib, I like your thinking, but I must disagree on a couple of points: evil is important and invariant, or non-invariant and not so important I believe evil is important to many people, and variant among the subsets. We sometimes share a sense of group by equating those outside the group as evil, and those within “our” group as good. I made the point before that the group(s) that we belong to have gotten larger and larger through history. The UN’s charter seems to have as an underlying belief that we are now one interconnected globe that can’t survive future wars without this awareness. I’m guessing that you are trying to aggregate good and evil to find some resulting group measurement of evil. I’ve done some invariant transformations of wave functions and homeomorphism on sets, so I kind of understand what you want out of the definition. If you find someone who gets close, I want to know. I was also wondering if you meant that the change in the system velocity was related to the temperature, and that’s how you would measure evil. I’ll think about that more. Similarly, predation exits because of the random order in which life evolved on earth, with animal phyla developing prior to plant phyla. I think you meant animal phyla developing after plant phyla. From this idea, if one plant species push out a less adaptable species, would this be an evil? I see this random creation of predation as the requirement for both predator and prey to evolve on this planet (and elsewhere) – ultimately giving rise to smarter hominids, and thus giving rise to concepts like evil. Do you think humans are required in the equation for evil? I believe this sense of evil resides in our brain’s limbic system, and we have had only a few thousand years to try to define it. What I find utterly fascinating is how strongly people feel about what they consider to be evil, yet how difficult it can be to define it more broadly; hence, why I posted.

To: neolib who wrote (201180)	9/5/2006 10:50:03 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

My definition's pretty simple. If your actions cause death or damage to uninvolved innocents, that's evil. By that definition, Hezbollah (and all terrorists) is evil, for shooting rockets they hoped would kill Israeli civilians, and for shooting them near their own civilians. But Israel is ALSO evil, for bombing areas they KNEW contained civilians, just to kill the Hezbollah rocketeers, who they also knew that only one out of forty rockets they fired was hitting anything. The body counts prove that Israel killed FAR more innocent civilians than Hezbollah did. My objection is that my OWN country supports Israel in this obvious evil.