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To: GPS Info who wrote (201195)9/4/2006 11:20:36 PM
From: neolib  Respond to of 281500
 
Let me ask this: if there were no predation, would there still be evil?

Yes, I think so. I would define the root of evil as reproduction > replacement, tempered by the nature of the local environment. i.e. one can expand into a "vacuum", but in a closed system, in the end, it is replacement or misery for others. I'd call this the equivalent of the Christian concept of original sin. Oddly enough, the prime directive of life, reproduction, is also the root of evil, since, life as we know it on earth does not appear stable with reproduction == 1, sans intelligence anyway. You could call that the fundamental defect of creation, the one broken symmetry which caused all the problems.

In Christianity, there is the idea of the lion sleeping with the lamb as a symbol of peace, and man lives in harmony with man. I view this idea as a metaphor for the end of predation, between animals and between people. Is there another interpretation based on DNA?

I have always seen that Christian metaphor the same way. As I stated above, yes, it is in the DNA of all life, reproduction > unity. This element of our DNA gives both life and evil. I link that to another Christian metaphor, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Good and evil are twined together there as well. The Ying and Yang I guess.


I’m not sure what this means. My individual DNA can be rendered very mortal. Does DNA become more and less immortal as time goes by?


It simple stands in contrast to the widely accepted religious view of immutable immortality of the individual. Instead, each individual is a vehicle for the mutable immortality of his DNA. Yes, many individuals DNA in each generation die out, a direct consequence of evil as I define it above.

OK. Having spent so much time in the FADG board, have you gotten any hints of how to define evil as the tactics of war?

I'm trying to start with the equivalent of Newtons equations, not the messy details of war.

I would make the following observation however: You should not kill individuals who have not reproduced, and are in or approaching their prime reproductive years. This is somewhat at odds to much conventional wisdom on the matter I admit.