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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (201507)	9/6/2006 7:27:27 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Once again I find my cynicism to be unwarranted optimism. I had hoped that the energy necessary to produce the hydrogen would be taken from other sources and the inefficiency wouldn't be a long term issue. I suppose this means Bush won't be doing any photo ops with hydrogen fuel cell companies. In retrospect, I should have known that was a clue that it was a dead end. jttmab

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (201507)	9/6/2006 1:16:01 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hydrogen is mercifully dead, at least for now. Not an energy source; an energy carrier. I'm not totally counting Hydrogen out. But your right about the current economies are not quite there yet. However, were we to obtain some cost-effective solar technology that is not resource intensive (metals, exotic materials.. etc) then effectively folks have an initial investment upfront and they could feasibly produce their own hydrogen. As I mentioned in a previous post, this company, Nanosolar, claims to have made Solar power generation about as cost comparable to electricy generated via fossil fuels. (I'm really waiting for this company to IPO) nanosolar.com Thus, rather than converting one form of energy storage into another, effectively Solar to Hydrogen would amount to actually storing energy, which means you could have your Solar panel layered roofing tiles producing and storing Hydrogen for you all day long and you could refill in the evening. But on a mass retail scale (refueling stations), I'm not sure it will ever achieve practicality. Hawk