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To: Sam who wrote (201712)	9/7/2006 8:20:56 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 281500

Please find a place where the Torah says this. Or even some current Jewish group that claims it. On that day, God made a covenant with Abram, saying: "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river the Euphrates. The land of the Kenites, Kenizites, Kadmonites; the Hittites, Perizzites, Refaim; the Emorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21 At least from that passage of the Torah, it only says descendants of Abraham, which would include Ishmael. God did a DNA covenant not necessarily a covenant with a religion. And knowing their sorrow, I am come down to deliver them out of the hands of the Egyptians, and to bring them out of that land into a good and spacious land, into a land that floweth with milk and honey, to the places of the Chanaanite, and Hethite, and Amorrhite, and Pherezite, and Hevite, and Jebusite. - Exodus 3: 8 The land of "milk and honey" doesn't sound like the mid-east to me. Perhaps God was thinking of Wisconsin?

To: Sam who wrote (201712)	9/7/2006 11:09:57 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

Genesis 15:18 “In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:” Ezekiel 48:1 “How these are the names of the tribes. From the north end to the coast of the way of Hethlon, as one goeth to Hamath, Hazar-enan, the border of Damascus northward, to the coast of Hamath; …” Ezekiel 48:28- 29 “And by the border of Gad, at the south side southward, the border shall be even from Tamar unto the waters of strife in Kadesh, and to the river toward the great sea. “ Not that I believe this primitive superstitious crap. But some Fundamentalist Jews do, and some Fundamentalist CHRISTIANS believe that it's a precondition for "the Rapture".