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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (202347)9/10/2006 4:20:19 PM
From: SARMAN  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
We did? Neither Bin Ladin, nor the Arab contingent of the Mujahidin, did much fighting against the Soviets. As I recall, OBL predominantly funneled money and logistical support via his group, the MAK, to the Mujahidin fighters. I also recall that he offered the benefits of his experience in construction to build bunkers and roads in the region. Neither you, nor I, have any proof that US funds were being funneled via Bin Ladin's group, although it's pretty certain that Saudi intelligence was doing so.
Yes you did. Ask the CIA.
We just provide the ISI with $$$$ and weapons and they did almost all the training).
That statement sums things up.

I guess I missed any "alternative" that didn't include the genocide of the Jews, and support for Islamo-Fascist regimes

You chose to miss it, that is ok it is a democracy, and is your way of interpreting things.
What's the difference between Lebanon's form of goverment and that of what we're assisting the Iraqi's to develop? They are BOTH "Confessional" forms of democracy and do not resemble any forme of Western model of democracy that I'm aware of.
Oh there is a big deference. The Lebanese democracy was created after Lebanon independence from the French. Iraq is still occupied by the US. Like or not, this is how Iraq is viewed by Iraqis as occupation.
Hell, my only vision is accountable government, free press, and some kind of rule of law that prevents the religious intolerance from becoming militant and violent. How they evolve their democracy after that, and how long it ultimately takes to reach the CURRENT stage of Western Democracy doesn't matter to me.
Isn't that what every one wants.
All I care about is that the process starts and is not defeated by an Islamo-Fascist alternative.
Even if so called "Islamo-Fascist" get elected, you have to respect the will of the majority of the people. Same as the monkey got elected by the majority of the American people not the popular vote, every one has to accept it but not necessary like it.