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To: Jim S who wrote (568)	9/11/2006 11:42:33 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Maybe you can help me out -- what exactly are you getting at? I was just sharing my thoughts and hoping to elicit readers' opinions. See the last three paras of this post. ------------------------ Read my post carefully! Had you not been biased against me at the outset, you would have understood what I wrote. It seems you did not read my post or you merely glossed over it. Perhaps it may help you greatly if you would care to go through my previous posts in time to the genesis of this discussion. You will also do well to keep calm and not be as worked up as you were when you were replying to my post. If my prior post made no sense to you, ignore it then. I am not on a mission here to convert any and all to my perceptions of the Holocaust. I do not believe in repeating myself as my previous posts are readily accessible to you on SI. To be sure, you will find a lot of interesting information regarding the Holocaust over the internet and the pro and con views of it. How many Jews would have to have died for the Nazi concentration camps to fit the definition of Holocaust? Ludicrous question! ---- According to an account I have read for which, regrettably, I am unable to provide the source at this time, some Zionists made an attempt to rescue the Jewish prisoners from the Nazis for several million dollars. Unfortunately the top Zionists in Switzerland refused to pony up the money, declaring that Jewish blood had to be spilt to make the case for creating Israel after the war strong. IF this was true, the top Zionists in WW2 allowed the Holocaust to happen and parlayed it for the sake of creating Israel. It also follows that no one should be made to experience dire consequences for questioning/discussing it. I've spoken to WWII vets who saw some of the camps, and I believe them, so you'll never convince me the camps didn't exist or didn't exterminate the inhabitants on a massive scale. Who was trying to convince you the camps never existed? You are barking up the wrong tree! You will have to understand that because of the massive carpet bombing by the allies that occurred over Germany, large food and medical and fuel supplies and many trucks, trains and roads and railways were destroyed with the result that very many prisoners died of starvation and diseases in the camps. In order to maintain hygienic conditions, it was vital to dispose of the rotting carcases quickly and cleanly by cremation whenever and wherever possible. Because fuel supplies were in short supply, there was insufficient fuel to cremate all the bodies. Which brings me back to the doubters' contention that most likely it was not some 6M Jews that were cremated but most likely only a smaller number of them. I too have friends who entered the camps and saw the piles of ashes and piles of corpses and the living dead. They believe that given the inadequate design and capacity and total number of the crematoria in all of the camps and the logistics involved, it was not possible to cremate 6 M bodies during WW2. What was I driving at? That the official version of the Holocaust is suspect and therefore it should be opened up for a re-examination to ascertain to what extent it is true or false. It is utterly unconscionable and revolting that the Holocaust which is suspect is often applied to persecute and prosecute people whose only "crime" is doubting what was foisted upon them as the absolute truth. Perhaps the revelations forthcoming from a re-examination of the Holocaust might give insights with regard to the Zionist agenda and modus operandi and then everyone would begin to see the Zionists for what they truly are. .