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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (2355)	9/14/2006 12:01:52 AM
From: Chuckles_Bee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50729

It is much easier to go with the line of the cowering V.P. telling all the folks not confused by the purposely scheduled military exercises "gee what are the odds we'd be practicing this exact same attack" to keep us occupied/confused....to stand down....because they didn't plan it, but they knew the attack was coming. Personally, I love that the exact same tactic was used with the London tubes/bus attack where the CEO of the disaster practice company is stunned and amazed that the actual attacks were a 100% perfect match to the supposedly secret non-public scheduled exercise. ....and don't forget the unarmed guy the English military shot 3/5/8/whatever times in the head after he was on the ground ...that wasn't dressed like they said ...and wasn't carrying a bomb like they said...and didn't have any wires hanging out of anything like they said. Seems he saw/knew "something". ...and don't forget plane "X" at the Cleveland airport that all the passengers disappeared during secret processing... ...and don't forget the one-month-later award ceremony for the pilot that actual shot down the one plane that supposedly crashed into the hole with hardly any remains (same as the Cleveland one)... AND...then there is this one, that no one seems to be paying attention to(which probably sadly implies closeness to truth): madcowprod.com In all the smoke and mirror play, the simplest truth...is that for some reason, and I doubt it is a good one, the government is making no honest effort to clear the view. They could clear the air...rally the country to their side...bring the nation to brace for whatever they claim they need to save us......but, no....they hide, attack all that question the party line, refuse to show video tapes they took...blah..blah...blah... When they go out of the way to NOT clear the air, they do not want it cleared. They think (know?) we are short attention span worker-bees that get a bit pissy now and then, but will eventually get over it and go back to our mindless duties/beer/football/etc.....and then they can go right on back to screwing us. Blah blah blah everywhere. How much of this one would you think might be true?: prisonplanet.com Condolences, CB.

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (2355)	9/14/2006 5:33:16 PM
From: J.B.C.	Respond to of 50729

>>They showed it on the radar. They said "This is the plane". << Yeah, show me a controllers screen of a recorded episode, where I know exactly which plane (remember this is now all after the fact) it was, and where it crashed and I can now follow it on it's journey, you could too. However in real time, the controller can have 20-30 aircraft on his screen and his flight status documentation to his side and his hand-off and receipt of IFR flights happening. And then add to that the alerts that there may be hijackings underway, he doesn't know which transponded plane to follow that ultimately dropped off. dsc.discovery.com The above link is the timeline for flight 93. This most likely is the flight that you refer to as the “freakin' idiots heard the hijackers speaking Arabic in the cockpit for an hour”: Message 22809020 If you click on 9:32 button, this is where the announcement is made that the air traffic controllers picked up. From the announcement, the ATC did not know which flight. In fact they thought it was Delta flight 1989 that was hijacked. Also note the time, 9:32. This is only 31 minutes before the crash, not an hour! (a 9/11 denier wouldn’t be prone to exaggeration would they? ) , AND according to the ATC, they think it’s Delta 1989. BUT, you’re sure you know (you haven’t told us how yet) which plane, so you’ve already scrambled your jets (from where?), even though ATC has zero authority over the military. OK, strike one. Now click on 9:35. This is where the plane begins to divert. Ok now the controllers are getting suspicious, because commercial jets pretty much follow their assigned routes otherwise they run into other jets and the flying public has a problem with that. But this confirms nothing yet, so the controller tries contacting the aircraft. But you’re so good that you have the jets which ARE NOT armed when they’re “combat ready” but rather at a state that can be called up within 24-72 hours: (http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/COMBATREADY) in the air. As an example: my personal vehicle is “trip ready” if I have it at my house and it runs (unlike the auto up on 4 blocks in your front yard). But if there is only a gallon of gas in it, I still have to go to the pumps before I’m able to drive 400 miles. The US does not maintain armed aircraft on the ground, they like to take their planes out and drive them around almost daily. AND people tend to have a problem with military jets that inadvertently lose a missile over residential areas of the US. I guess they’re just picky that way. Strike two. Now click on the 9:41 button. This is where the transponder is turned off. Note the comment: ”…and Cleveland Center loses contact”. I guess I just don’t know what that means other than STRIKE THREE! If you were a brave enough denier to attend the movie “Flight 93” you might have noted something pretty peculiar during the credits. The ACTUAL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS FROM 9/11, PLAYED THEMSELVES! Guess what in the movie, the ATC folks, who were actually there, lost SIGHT OF WHERE THE PLANES WERE THAT TURNED OFF THEIR TRANSPONDERS. But there is still 22 minutes ‘till the crash. And you with your fictitious authority (don’t bother contacting the military brass who have to contact their generals, who in turn have to contact their bosses and then the process in reverse to get the word back to you, I guess that’s why the exaggerated time from you as 1 hour was made. Because you know it will take some time, AND hoping that I wouldn’t check your claim) have already called up your fictitious planes with fictitious munitions already onboard from a fictitious military base. Call me a little wary of a 22 year-old kid from loose change that blatantly implies the planes could have been shot down, but did NO research on active status of aircraft at military basis and what that means exactly. And call me extremely wary of people with BDS, such as yourself, that bought the whole package; hook-line and sinker. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! Message 22809020