To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (77977 ) 9/14/2006 12:33:40 AM From: Orcastraiter Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976 First let me clear, that when I said smart tactics, I meant that with tongue in cheek. First contrast all that money and effort that went into trying to control Vietnam militarily with a similar effort in which another type of persuasion was used. One where great benefit was brought to the people of Vietnam. It's the old you get more bears with honey than vinegar idea. You find out what the people want or need and then you give it to them or better yet give them access to it...perhaps for a price. But everybody will pay a price, especially if they think they are getting a bargain too. Now step back one square and recall, What was the objective of the Vietnam war? That can be a tricky question, because there may be several levels on which the question could be answered. There was the level on which the war was sold to the American people. I believe that was to "stem communism". To prevent the entire area of southeast asia from becoming falling dominos. The "Domino Theory". I think some even extended this theory to the state of Kansas. They were selling fear there. The tricky part is determining the underlying needs for this war. Some have suggested that it was Vietnam's resources, or it's strategic location. Other suggest that it was the enormous profits that could be made from the war. Those in the military industrial complex make huge profits from wars. Andrew Carnegie showed how you could build an empire by selling steel to the Union Army. Bottom line...war is business. For the arms dealers and the war vendors, they really don't care where the war is or what it's for...just so long as the cash register is ringing. But for the moment, lets say that it was the "control of vietnam" that was desired. If you want to control someone you can do it two ways. Either beat the living hell out of them in total domination...read Shock and Awe...or you can persuade them to your way of thinking...read buy them or influence them. Some folks can be bought for a drink. Others can be bought for a "good time". Others will be wanting to partner with you if you show them the business plan. You have to have many plans on many levels that appeal to folks. But for the blood and money we spent on Vietnam during that long war, we could have improved their factories, farms, housing, trade, market development, education, tourism...you name it. We could have done so much with all that effort. In the end, what did we get for all we spent? The average Vietnam citizen got a lifetime of nightmares and tears. The average American got not much more. But some...in high places...profited beyond belief. So I guess what smart tactics are, is highly dependent on: your objectives and your position. Some will say that smart tactics were used in Vietnam. Those folks profited handsomely. Ok then...I'll quit here...I hope you got my drift by now.