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To: SARMAN who wrote (202925)	9/14/2006 10:05:28 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Yep.. I have a bullet to spare for every one of you Militant Neo Con new born Christians red neck who think you have the right to force your religion upon us. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, then you would be right to do so.. And believe it or not, if we were facing Christian radical "crusaders" bent upon forcing people to accept Christianity or be killed, I would oppose them. In fact, I would ACTUALLY ACTIVELY CRITICIZE AND CONDEMN THEM, AND I WOULD FIGHT AGAINST THEM, IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY!! (that shows the difference between you and me, since you've never stated you do anything but support the efforts of your militants). Because I firmly believe that the greatest insult mankind can render toward God is to have to force someone to believe in him. But that's not the case, now is it?? Show me an example where it has been presented official, or even unofficial, US goverment policy of "convert or die"?? Show me where there's an official policy that states we're going to turn create an Arab Christian nation out of Iraq.. There are (were?) some 2 million Iraqi Christians living in Iraq. That's some 5%+ of the population.. Why hasn't the US turned the government over them?? The reality is that you have NO CASE to make about this being some kind of Christian "crusade" against Islam. Because this war is focused upon your JIHAD against the "infidels". We fight because your Islamo-Fascist militant Jihadist movement has threatened and attacked us. You've threatened to spread your Caliphate from Iraq to Spain (and beyond). Have you ever bumped in a new born Christian? I guess not. I believe you mean a "born-again" Christian.. And yes.. I was married to one for 9 years until I could no longer handle her BS and left her. She became the epitomy of the ugly Christian, for whom the ends justified the means, so long as it "saved souls". BTW get your facts strait Muslims do not convert people it is the Christians that do. Oh??!! Tell that to reporter Steve Centanni and his cameraman, who were taken hostage in Gaza.. They were forced to convert to Islam with the muzzle of a gun pointed at them as a condition of their release. Here's the video of what they were required to say by their captors: hotair.com 3. Various Palestinian middlemen were used by British agents at the request of the US to bring the Fox journalists home. They worked out a convoluted deal which entailed their public conversion to Islam, an anti-American harangue on air and a six-figure cash ransom paid under the table to Dughmush to fund his terrorist militia’s operations in Gaza. Is this what your Muslims have in mind for the for all of us non-muslims, should we be foolish enough to give you the opportunity?? Is your religion so spiritually and morally bankrupt that you have to force people to convert to it? These are the people who YOU REFUSE TO DENOUNCE, refuse to confront, refuse to support, and refuse to fight Sarman. So how can anyone be left with anything other than the belief that you support and condone their Jihadist efforts? Hawk

To: SARMAN who wrote (202925)	9/14/2006 10:26:38 AM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Lebanon - a reassessment By ASHER SUSSER Anyone following the war in Lebanon in the Israeli media could not but come away engulfed in deep depression. Israelis and their media tend to focus obsessively on themselves, their own losses and failings, remaining largely oblivious to what is happening on the other side of the divide. This is as true about Gaza as it is about Lebanon. In contrast to the uniform and self-centered discussion in Israel, the war with Hizbullah and its consequences are being discussed in Lebanon and the broader Arab world in a more diverse and more sophisticated debate. In the Arab world, views vary from the one extreme, which sees the ultimate victory of the Arabs in more missiles and rockets that will surely bring Israel to its knees in the not too distant future, to those at the other end of the spectrum, according to whom Hizbullah, Lebanon and the Arabs have, in fact, been defeated. At the height of the war, as Hizbullah rockets regularly sent hundreds of thousands of Israelis scurrying to the shelters like "rabbits and mice," as some of the Arab media noted with undisguised gratification, the mood tended to be militantly euphoric, buoyed by the widely broadcast images of Israeli suffering and humiliation. But as the war came to its conclusion and life in Israel returned pretty much to normal, opinion in the Arab world has shifted to more sober analysis, as Lebanon, Hizbullah and the Shi'ites face the daunting task of what will probably be years of multi-billion dollar reconstruction. Even a cursory perusal of the Arab press, will reveal that Hizbullah's status in Lebanon has changed for the worse, as many Lebanese come to the rather shocking realization that the south of their country, unknown to them, had in fact been transformed into an Iranian and Syrian launching pad against Israel posing an existential threat to their own livelihoods and to their entire country. Hizbullah is now on the defensive, trying to protect its political assets against a more assertive Lebanese domestic majority, that seems more determined than ever to contain Hizbullah's "state within a state," so that they are not drawn again into a destructive war with Israel, without as much as a word of consultation excerpt from jpost.com

To: SARMAN who wrote (202925)	9/16/2006 6:30:49 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hey Sarman.. whatcha think about what the pope said?? And how about your "barking dogs" blowing up churches in response?? Sounds like a wonderful message your militant members are putting forth.. "We present to you the "face" of Islam!!! Should we perceive an insult (we don't care if the insult was actual or perceived) they we will blow up your churches!!" Nice message there... Makes me want to become a Muslim.. You've been kind of quiet here... All that "barking" making you tired? Hawk