The concrete floors were 4 inches thick.
That is the number known in all the literature on the subject.
33% more mass than the numbers you wasted so much time on. sheesh...alotta fun for you eh?
Was there more concrete than just that in the floors? The outer walls. That's ALOT of wall.
All columns, girders and floor beams are solid steel covered with 1 to 2 inches of brick terracotta and concrete.
The amount of concrete in each building is documented. What other world gave you the authority to change the facts?
And what are you replacing the 3200 sq/ft per floor with?
That's over 350,000 sq ft at 4 inches thick. Just saying that much area wasn't concrete doesn't hold water.
If it wasn't concrete, what was it? Was it a stronger substance than concrete? weaker? heavier? lighter?
Whatever it was, since I don't see large regularly shaped 3200 sq foot things in the pictures of the rubble, it was reduced to dust too. If its resistance to pulverization was similar to that of concrete it would belong in the calculations. Another 8+% error on your part.
And WHAT amount of energy did you say was necessary to reduce the concrete to particles of 60 microns in diameter?
You are working with bad numbers. I would say you are working with purposely bad numbers.
And I won't even go into the problem you'd have with everything else reduced to dust...chairs, desks, conduits, carpets, moniters, computers, bathrooms, doorways, doors, telephones, glass, etc, etc...
A couple questions:
What morality do torturers have? Who's using torture now?
Who's trying to rationalize justifications for its use?
Where does that effort come from? The White House.
Who's now the Attorney General...in charge of US law enforcement?
The people who produced and created 9/11 have zero morals.
That's one thing everyone can agree on.
Would anyone capable of committing the attacks on 9/11 be capable of committing further murder?
What kind of morality is at work in ordering the EPA to lie and tell everyone the air, which was known to be deadly, was safe to breathe and everyone should return to New York?
Where did that effort come from? The White House.
New Yorkers, rescue workers, clean-up workers and tourists...AMERICANS...were all invited to enter a defined area that was known to contain a poisonous atmosphere. The EPA and the White House had FULL KNOWLEDGE of the truth.
It's been long documented folks.
Many have already died. Many are dying now. Many more will die.
Picture another defined area into which people were led that contained a poisonous atmosphere.
What picture came to mind?
There's no difference. NYC may as well have been a MASSIVE shower stall filled with poison gas.
It's mass murder.
Would OUR government ever do such a thing?
They already did.
cbsnews.com
WAKE YOURSELVES UP.
Ask yourselves some questions:
Would anyone capable of committing 9/11 then turn around and be incapable of destroying evidence?
Would OUR government send an organized squad of goons to someone's home to terrorize a reporter for looking into 9/11 and speaking out?
unobserver.com
Feel more secure now?
Or arrest a reporter investigating treatment of Katrina victims?
gregpalast.com
Hmmm...both by the DHS...gestapo much?
You CANNOT say "Our own government would never do such a thing" as an excuse to not research this on your own and come to your own conclusions.
Would OUR government ever do such a thing as plan and carry out the attacks on 9/11?
Don't take ANYBODY'S word for it but YOUR OWN.
But remember, the people who sent New Yorkers into what they KNEW was the poisonous atmosphere in New York City have absolutely no compunction against doing anything similar to anyone. They wouldn't have tracked YOU down to tell you not to go if you lived or worked there.
Those of us who are trying to get the truth to others are also even trying to save people who are working against the truth on the "grunt" levels.
Check into the 2 seismic spikes, completely accurately fixed in time, BEFORE the planes struck.
OVERVIEW
This paper is concerned only with the factual data surrounding the exact impact times of the two aircraft that hit WTC1 and WTC2. Everything else about 9/11 is outside the scope of this paper.
This is not a theory or hypothesis, but a statement of publicized facts regarding the timing of the aircraft impacts. There exist two separate precision data time sets that address when the aircraft crashed into the Towers. Both data time sets are based on UTC (Coordinated Universal Time, the world’s atomic clock system) and the sources that determined these times were prestigious, reliable and credible.
There is no question regarding the precision and accuracy of the instruments used to record both data time sets, since their entire function depends and relies upon temporal accuracy, and therefore there can be no doubt that both data time sets are correct. The time data sets represent objective scientific data recorded by two separate, independent entities.
The problem is the data sets have different impact times.
These times were given out years ago but at different times. Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University (LDEO) gave its findings around the time of the actual event with what it thought were impact times based upon the seismic data recorded, while the 9/11 Commission published its impact times, based upon FAA radar data and air traffic control software logic, years later in its Final Report. The Commission no longer exists.
Here are the impact times for each source:
...............................AA Flt 11.....UA Flt 175
LDEO:.....................8:46:26.....9:02:54
9/11 Commission: 8:46:40.....9:03:11
Differentials: ..........14 secs.....17 secs
SEISMIC DATA AND TIMES
LDEO Published Findings
Link: ldeo.columbia.edu
(all times plus or minus 1 to 2 seconds)
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LDEO confirmed its data as accurate:
mgs.md.gov
9/11 COMMISSION DATA AND TIMES
Commission Timeline
Link: gpoaccess.gov
The Commission’s times are based upon: "We have determined that the impact time was 9:03:11 based on our analysis of FAA radar data and air traffic control software logic." [9/11 Commission Report, pg 460, Note 130]:
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(Note 130 is the basis for WTC1 & WTC2 precision impact times to the second)
scholarsfor911truth.org
It is known that the FAA followed the aircraft using four different radar tracking stations utilizing primary radar return with all times to the second. Radar is based upon microwaves that travel at the speed of light, and therefore an error variance (which is in microseconds) need not be stated.
The Commission Report has the impact times.
Their data set is based upon actual flight data that ended when the Towers were struck.
There is no question: AA Flight 11 died exactly at 8:46:40 and UA Flight 175 at 9:03:11 [UTC – 4 hrs].
Since the planes crashed at those times, the question is: What caused the LDEO times 14 and 17 seconds earlier? What caused those seismic spikes?
On the face, it seems tenuous that the spikes were "impact times". How does an aircraft impacting the WTC near the 90th floor result in energy transference that travels all the way down to the earth, even through the massive multi-level, 6-story sub-basement structure, and be picked up by LDEO as a seismic spike? Energy from the crash should have mostly been absorbed by the building’s immense structure and mass.
The following is an excerpt about an eyewitness at WTC1 by the name of William Rodriguez (he worked at the WTC complex for 20 years, was acknowledged a hero for the many lives he saved that day, and he was the last person out of the building before it came down):
newswithviews.com
Arriving at 8:30 on the morning of 9-11 he went to the maintenance office located on the first sublevel, one of six sub-basements beneath ground level. There were a total of fourteen people in the office at that same time. As he was discussing the day’s tasks with others, there was a very loud massive explosion which seemed to emanate from between sub-basement B2 and B3. There were an additional twenty-two people on B2 sub-basement who also felt and heard that first explosion.
At first he thought it was a generator that had exploded. But the cement walls in the office cracked from the explosion. "When I heard the sound of the explosion, the floor beneath my feet vibrated, the walls started cracking and everything started shaking." said Rodriguez, who was crowded together with fourteen other people in the office including Anthony Saltamachia, his supervisor for the American Building Maintenance Company.
Just seconds later there was another explosion way above which made the building oscillate momentarily. This, he was later told, was a plane hitting the Tower at about the 90th floor. Upon hearing about the plane, he immediately thought of the people up in the restaurant. Then there were other explosions just above B1 and individuals started heading for the loading dock to escape the explosion’s resulting rampant fire. When asked later about those first explosions he said: "I would know if an explosion was from the bottom or the top of the building." He heard explosions both before and after the plane hit the Tower.
The number of witnesses who presented evidence of explosion and explosion damage, and particularly the injuries that some witnesses received, again leaves no room for doubt that there were explosions in the basement of WTC1. The following video link of the powerful testimony of William Rodriguez is evidence that corroborates the facts of this paper; and these facts corroborate these 37 eyewitnesses:
video.google.com
CONCLUSION
Several seismic stations recorded seismic signals originating from two events which occurred at the WTC site, immediately prior to both aircraft impacts. Because these signals preceded the impacts there can be no doubt that the seismic signals recorded were not those associated with the aircraft impacts on the Towers.
These signals were in fact the seismic spikes associated with the huge basement explosions reported by witnesses.
The inescapable conclusions drawn from this analysis and the facts contained therein, cast extreme doubt on the government's claim that these attacks were carried out solely by Middle Eastern terrorists, who would not have had the ability or opportunity to plant the explosive devices, nor to detonate them so as to be masked and partially hidden by the aircraft impacts. The real perpetrators, those who actually did plant these devices, clearly had free access to the Towers. The total number of people who had this opportunity was small and a list of these people should be easily available. Middle Eastern terrorists alone could not have been responsible as they do not have the wherewithal of this kind of scale. It is more than remarkable that the 9/11 Commission, although it heard the testimony of William Rodriguez regarding the explosions in the basements, did not deem it important enough to be included in the Final Report.
These facts of the conspiracy demand a new independent, quasi private/public, non-politicized 9/11 investigation (a real one this time, one with teeth) be formed immediately to pursue this crime investigation until the murderers / conspirators are identified, apprehended, and brought to justice. All Americans, especially the NYPD, the Attorney General for the State of New York, Congress, and the Bush Administration need to help in answering this question: Who is responsible for the explosions? No stone should be left unturned until these murderers are caught. If the government and the media do not respond to this, it is like an admission of guilt and/or continued coverup.
There must be justice for those who died that day, justice for their families and friends who grieve to this day, justice for all the victims who survived, and that those who did this heinous act receive the full measure of justice befitting their crime. |
