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To: TimF who wrote (303210)	9/14/2006 11:18:24 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571218

"It doesn't involve a president exercising a power, but rather a president following the law." Yes. "The constitution is the highest law of the land and the president is sworn to support and defend it." Yes. "If congress and the president disagree than the courts wind up deciding, eventually, at least if its important enough." Yes. So where do you get that a president can decide whether or not to follow a law?

To: TimF who wrote (303210)	9/15/2006 2:36:23 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571218

Senate Panel Defies Bush on Terror Senate Panel Approves Bill on Treatment of Terror Detainees, Defying Bush By ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY WASHINGTON Sep 14, 2006 (AP)— A rebellious Senate committee defied President Bush on Thursday and approved terror-detainee legislation he has vowed to block, deepening Republican conflict over terrorism and national security in the middle of the election season. Republican Sen. John Warner of Virginia, normally a Bush supporter, pushed the measure through his Armed Services Committee by a 15-9 vote, with Warner and three other GOP lawmakers joining Democrats. The vote set the stage for a showdown on the Senate floor as early as next week. In an embarrassment to the White House, Colin Powell Bush's first secretary of state announced his opposition to his old boss' plan, saying it would hurt the country. Powell's successor, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, jumped to the president's defense in a letter of her own. All this played out after Bush started his day by journeying to the Capitol to try nailing down support for his own version of the legislation and by issuing a threat to the maverick Republicans. "I will resist any bill that does not enable this program to go forward with legal clarity," Bush said at the White House. The president's measure would go further than the Senate package in allowing classified evidence to be withheld from defendants in terror trials, using coerced testimony and protecting CIA and other U.S. interrogators against prosecution for using methods that may violate the Geneva Conventions. "The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism," Powell, a retired general who is also a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote in his letter. Powell said Bush's bill, by redefining the kind of treatment the Geneva Conventions allow, "would add to those doubts. Furthermore, it would put our own troops at risk." Firing back, White House spokesman Tony Snow said Powell was "confused" about the White House plan. Later, Snow said he probably shouldn't have used that word. "I know that Colin Powell wants to beat the terrorists, too," he said. Continued 1. 2. 3. NEXT» abcnews.go.com

To: TimF who wrote (303210)	9/15/2006 5:46:40 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571218

"Which isn't a tyrannical or inappropriate action if the president sees the act as unconstitutional." There is nothing in the Constitution that gives a president that power. It doesn't involve a president exercising a power, but rather a president following the law. The constitution is the highest law of the land and the president is sworn to support and defend it. That does not mean he has the right to decide unitarily that a law is unconsitutional.