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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (303246)	9/15/2006 12:47:24 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575173

"They "wanted" another Vietnam just like the neoconservatives "wanted" another Pearl Harbor." Nonsense. No one wants a Vietnam, which is why some people were so strident in warning against it. By your reasoning, the administration wants more terrorist attacks. Fiscal conservatives want an economic collapse. Ecology, umm, "enthusiasts" want ecological collapse. And so on. Warning against dire consequences doesn't mean someone wants those consequences. In fact, they are usually issuing the warning precisely because they don't want it to happen. The neocons wanted a New Pearl Harbor because they could see how they could use it to advance their cause. They talked about it because there was something bound to come along that they could twist to their ends, and it did. And they were ready for it. Which is why the rhetoric became disconnected from reality so quickly.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (303246)	9/15/2006 3:46:17 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575173

They "wanted" another Vietnam just like the neoconservatives "wanted" another Pearl Harbor. Not so, The neocons wrote of their desire for another "Pearl Harbor". It is spelled out very clearly in the Project For a New American Century that a war of hegenemy over Islam was most desirable, and that in their calculation such a war could not gain support unless there was a catelysing event to unite the public. The smoking gun is right there in their own words, but too many are so afraid of the implications that they would rather just pretend that Cheney and the neocons did not orchestrate such an event. TP