To: Sam who wrote (203207 ) 9/17/2006 8:57:38 AM From: Keith Feral Respond to of 281500 Zogby makes a few good points. One, the Pope went out of his way to find these controversial passages, for which he is ONLY sorry that the Muslims are offended. If they don't reflect his personal views, why did he bother to choose the 14th Century texts in the first place, only to go on about how compulsory religion violates the spirit of Christianity embraced by faith and logic. He argues that people should have the free will be obedient to Christian values. I agree with everything he is saying. The problem with religion is that no one likes intolerant statements coming from right wing people like Pat Robertson. There is no difference between him saying that people that do not accept Christ will burn in hell & the Islamofascists threatening to kill you if you offend their religion. We have become so tolerant of anti religion in the West that we think it is perfectly acceptable to attack another person for his religious beliefs. Our philosophical base of religious freedom has undermined religious order on every level. We have never promoted religious tolerance in the West, quite the opposite. We have to use philosophy and human rights to protect us from the deeply fundamental position of people like Pat Robertson in our society. When you listen to the garbage coming out of his mouth, it makes people turn away from religion. I think that the Pope is trying to restore a new enemy for all Catholics, by insulting the Muslims. Instead of telling people to come back to their faith, he is telling them that there are people that are forcefully trying to take it from them. Now, what is more important to someone than something they cannot have. Tell people that Islam is going to take away God from them and they will instinctively defend the traditions of Christianity. If people realize that Islam is coercing religion on all Muslims, then maybe there will be an opposite reaction as Christians return to the Church to as part of their own free will. Maybe it will rekindle voluntary obedience to the faith and reason of Church, without threatening a single Christian's soul. When you listen to what the President of Iran says, he certainly advocates religious order back in the West. He has been trying to push for religious debates, calling for direct talks with GWB. That's not going to happen, but he is excited to initiate a global reform of religion, even one that goes against Islam. Maybe they see a devout Christian faith as a better replacement to the multicultural pluralism that has removed the image of God from Western civilization.