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To: jspeed who wrote (211084)	9/18/2006 9:52:22 AM
From: FJB	Respond to of 275872

Nvidia beats ATI to 80nm Monica Chen, Taipei; Jessie Shen, DigiTimes.com [Monday 18 September 2006] With availability of the GeForce Go 7700 graphics processing unit (GPU), Nvidia has beat ATI Technologies to the punch in the 80-nanometer (80nm) manufacturing process. The GeForce Go 7700 is the first notebook GPU manufactured using 80nm process technology at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), graphics card makers indicated, adding that ATI plans to implement 80nm manufacturing process for all its GPUs by the third quarter of this year. The Nvidia GeForce Go 7700 (G73M-B1 core) features 12 pixel shader units, five vertex shaders and GDDR3 memory. Following the chip, Nvidia will introduce a new desktop GPU—the GeForce 7650 GS (G73-B1 core)—manufactured on a 80nm process at the end of September, the makers said. Currently, all of Nvidia's 80nm process production takes place at TSMC, the makers added. A June 16 article cited Edward Chou, marketing director of ATI Technologies Asia-Pacific division, as noting that ATI's scheduled timeframe for a complete migration to 80nm production would come without delay. By 2007, ATI expects to start implementing a 65nm production node, in an attempt to bring better cost efficiency, Chou stated in the report. Nvidia, which had adopted a more conservative attitude in accordance with the company's manufacturing process technology roadmap and related strategies, responded with action, some graphics card makers said. Graphics card makers, who have reviewed ATI's latest roadmap, revealed that the launch of the ATI Radeon X1950 Pro (RV570 core) and Radeon X1650 XT GPUs will take place on October 17. Aside from TSMC, United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC) is mainly responsible for Nvidia's GoForce handheld GPU production at present, according to sources. TSMC currently handles most of Nvidia's GeForce 7100 GS production (codenamed GF-7100GS-N-A2) using 0.11-micron process technology at its Fab 12 and Fab 14, whereas Chartered Semiconductor manufactures a small volume of the GeForce 7100 GS GPU (codenamed GF-7100GS-N-B2) at its Fab 6 and Fab 7, indicated the sources. digitimes.com

To: jspeed who wrote (211084)	9/18/2006 10:30:07 AM
From: Rink	Respond to of 275872

Jspeed, Charlie asked AMD and found that "all QC parts are the new core, Rev H, any stories to the contrary, including mine, are wrong.": uk.theinquirer.net Plyngso on ihub did the same and got the same answer: First Quad Core part scheduled for "mid 2007" contain[s] the "128-bit FP": investorshub.com The first QC is of a 'next generation architecture': epscontest.com , and is due Q2 2007: epscontest.com Hans de Vries consistently calls all cores with the 128b FPU rev H. Here's one example: Message 22822108 . In this example he mention's that this article: babelfish.altavista.com seems to mention that: "The improved core is Rev.H (The Green QC with 128 bitFP)". This is consistent with Charlie's correction after he talked with AMD directly, like Plyngso. Also there clearly is another new 65nm core that does not have the 128b FPU. The core parts of this cpu are more or less a shrink of the rev F cores but with added HTT v3.0, 'Mobile Optimized On Die North Bridge', and split pane power regulation. This new core is reasonably likely to be of a LOWER revision than the QC Rev H core because it lacks the 128b FPU. Now the question is what is lower than rev 'H'? epscontest.com (My answer is that this is either rev G, or rev GH, but quite definitely not rev H). In short I rather doubt that you have any logical basis to conclude that: "Rev G is the improved core with the 128 bit FPU." About 'K8L'. It probably existed. You're right that Henri seemed to have talked about it, and that it is now denied to have existed. Maybe it's interesting to compare that with the fact that previous roadmaps talked about Deerhound (and several other -hounds), Zamorra, and Cadiz, and these seem to have been replaced by Barcelona, Budapest, and Shanghai. Because of this it is likely that previous roadmaps have been torn up (K8L might have disappeared in favor of something else). It is not unreasonable to think that this event might have had something to do with the release of CMW. Regards, Rink