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To: Ilaine who wrote (203427)9/18/2006 1:49:23 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
I think fascism is a stage that historically most, maybe all, democracies go through on the way to maturity.

I might agree to such a contention were you to say dictatorship, rather than the more systemic ideological "fascism". I know that sometimes there's a fine line between the two, but I would not considering replacing one oppressive totalitarian regime for another as "progress"..

Pinochet, controversial though he might be, seems more of a dictator than a fascist. He perceived a threat from Communism and he and his fellow generals acted in a violent manner to prevent Chilean democracy from falling prey to communism (according to their perception).

But from my perception of his rule, he considered himself a "paternalistic dictator", and not someone who wished to remain in power, or to create a dynasty. He wanted to restore a balance between socialism and capitalism. And the fact that the Chilean economy has reflected tremendous success since the overthrow of Allende, he probably deserves a bit more credit for helping Chile avoid the problems of other Latin countries.

But Fascism, according to Mussolini's definition, is a far more systemic ideology that is a bit more than restoring the equiliburium between "freedom and order".

And maybe I'm trying to paddle against the current of historical precedence, but I would just like to believe that this kind of pain and suffering is just unecessary.

We cannot impose a settlement upon the various powerful interests that exist in these societies, but we can be the referee (and bouncer, when necessary) while assisting them to arrive at a compromise they all can settle for.

At least I still believe this may be possible in Iraq. I sincerely hope I'm not proven mistaken. The cost in blood will far exceed what has been spilled up to present day.

Hawk