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To: JohnM who wrote (28808)	9/18/2006 8:17:28 PM
From: wonk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541884

…Our two hundred year old reputation for being fair and humane and decent… Perhaps its already been discussed. I haven’t been around. Looking back, perhaps the last quoted line was inflammatory, given Dale’s ground rules. I didn’t think to edit it out. Putting that aside: this guy influenced the Founding Fathers quite significantly: constitution.org Here is his section on torture – published in 1764. constitution.org …Besides, it is confounding all relations to expect that a man should be both the accuser and accused; and that pain should be the test of truth, as if truth resided in the muscles and fibres of a wretch in torture. By this method the robust will escape, and the feeble be condemned. These are the inconveniences of this pretended test of truth, worthy only of a cannibal, and which the Romans, in many respects barbarous, and whose savage virtue has been too much admired, reserved for the slaves alone… ww