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To: que seria who wrote (21444)9/19/2006 10:11:31 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78405
 
Again I should not spend too much time on this one, as it is a misperception, but I probably do owe as much fairness as I deserve. No, I had not been looking at its gold so much as I was looking at the economics of an operation, and observing dryly, and not disparagingly as the poster so sensitively bleats, that they need x money in the door and profit too, (as seems to elude a few gold producers in the market these days as well,) to get to so much perceived capital worth with the attendent noted dilution. I as much reiterate here I was considering its gold equivalent for illustrative purposes although I usually scorn gold equivalent claims as not fair in many orebodies, such that the copper is never the same cost structure, although it may be cheaper to extract and concentrate initially per ton of ore. I was aware that the belt was predominantly copper, oft ignored for its gold content. The syncline in fact is on one limb gold rich and on the other more exploited domain, copper rich, hence the name, the Copper Rand. The mine and the area was explored by a couple of people I know since the 1930's and IP was tried for the first time in Canada back then on copper ores of the Chibougamau region, although I do not think they used psuedo sections a al Hallof at that time. I think, and I think NWI thinks the area could have a going over more for gold however.

The unexploited tonnage of gold ore in Campbell who a few years back were looking to become a gold predominant operation, may be just as important as their copper, but they are not developing there, for reasons of mass and money. Right now they are in an underexploited mode. As I quickly observer at the outset they need to get their tonnage up, which as they have said so far is a function of manpower shortages as much as development stage scale considerations.

I note that our friends KGI doing a bang up job of gold exploration are also having trouble printing a profit dollar so far on exploiting 12,000 ounce this quarter at 0.357 OPT.
They were gunning for production of 19,000 ore thereabouts and fell short. This was because of hassles with their backfill system they say. Losses were 12 cents a share or 3.5 million dollars. Their losses last year were 5.4 million dollars for the same quarter, so it seems to be progress. The way I see it, most of these miners are trying long hole techniques on fairly narrow veins and suffering lack of hanging wall control, and lack of dilution control on the outline of their blast hole string. They can get away with this with sublevels in copper ore, with 15 foot widths or more, but in gold with 6 foot widths, they are going to suffer unless they are mining and milling at 2000 tpd or more. I advocate better surveyed control of the drill strings, and more aligned drilling in general. If they do turn out to need hanging wall control, even given ultra fast mining methods, I know there is a way to get in stope and do it, but they are not at that technological stage. In fact if they can get in stope safely there is a way to drill and blast it all with slightly higher tech. The way the old boys stayed on grade at macassa was in stope with stulls for wall control. Too dangerous these days it is said. I could do it safely with a bit of machinery and mining rate would be good too.

But it needs some tech development. Not that it could not be done, but the way most miners are going at it they would see two years of machinery development as a waste of time. They need ore today. I would say in turn that is not the attitude they should take if the intervening period proves unprofitable.

EC<:-}