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To: DMaA who wrote (1209)9/19/2006 12:55:25 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10087
 
I don't know if this author is just ignorant of basic Christian theology, is deliberately concealing a darker intent, or if this reflects a problem of definition.

I imagine that he's just trying to accentuate the positive by finding what they have in common.

WRONG! Jesus isn't a prophet, he's 1/3 of the God Head.

Jesus was a prophet, I think. He is widely recognized as a prophet. I don't see how you can say he wasn't a prophet. And that makes it a commonality, seems to me.

That he is 1/3 of the God Head to some represents a difference but I don't see any reason to make that difference any bigger than it is by claiming he was not also a prophet. You can argue that he is not JUST a prophet, but surely not that he was not a prophet.



To: DMaA who wrote (1209)9/19/2006 1:47:12 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 10087
 
Well that is about as middle of the road as it gets with credible authors who speak to the mainstream. There are of course people who are more radical and intolerant and people who prefer to see no difference except that you have to texts that could guide you to a righteous end with a common God.

The Quran actually declares that the differences in perspective can not be sorted out via debate in this world. It says that people were made different and put on the Earth at different times and different places for a good reason that we will only be able to understand after this life is over. But there is only one God who is the God of all of us. You know in your heart that religious persecution is a corruption of the scripture. It was wrong when England did it, the Spanish inquisition was wrong, it is wrong for Muslims to do it, it is wrong period.

There are definitely intolerant and bigoted Muslims, just like there are intolerant and bigoted people in all groups. It is based on ignorance of others that turns into fear and eventually hatred of others that can and does become violent and evil.

"The more I read things like this the more I question Muslim tolerance of Christianity."

I know you are a good man D but when I read comments like that, from some people, I start worrying about the next threatening phone call.

Have Peace.



To: DMaA who wrote (1209)9/19/2006 3:31:17 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10087
 
THere is a lovely article in a Newsweek from a couple of weeks ago about Billy Graham. I have never been a big fan, and read this because a friend of ours chaired the recent Baltimore Graham crusade, probably the last time Billy Graham will speak, and he spoke so highly of everything about Rev. Graham.

Having heard the dogmatic statement about the only way to God being through Christ so often in the past, I was struck by the humility and great wisdom of Graham's reply to a question about this. He is hardly a man ignorant of theology or filled with "dark intent":

He is sure
and certain of his faith in Jesus as the way to salvation, but when asked
whether he believes heaven will be closed to good Jews, Muslims, Buddhists,
Hindus or secular people, Graham says: "Those are decisions only the Lord
will make. It would be foolish for me to speculate on who will be there and
who won't ... I don't want to speculate about all that. I believe the love
of God is absolute. He said he gave his son for the whole world, and I
think he loves everybody regardless of what label they have."