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To: Ilaine who wrote (203579)9/19/2006 3:32:25 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Is waterboarding torture? Is handcuffing people in uncomfortable postures for 72 hours naked in 50 degree temperatures torture? If it were done to YOU, would YOU think it was torture?

I agree, we should air everything that was done to people in our custody, who ordered it, follow it up the chain of command, and determine whether it's torture or not, and then take appropriate measures. We want to be morally superior to the terrorists - the President has said so.

Just to define our terms. Common article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which is the international LAW we helped to draft and that we were supposedly operating under, forbids even "degrading treatment" - which I would consider some of the things you described. The Supreme Court recently ruled that this DOES apply to the chimp Nero's "enemy combatants". But, I think he probably REALLY knew that already.

Is what went on in Syria and other foreign hellholes we've "rendered" people to torture? Does the "rendering" absolve us of all responsibility? Did OUR CIA people participate? Inquiring minds want to KNOW..



To: Ilaine who wrote (203579)9/19/2006 6:27:28 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 281500
 
Is making someone listen to rap music "torture"?

Yes. Oh, yes indeed.