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To: TobagoJack who wrote (9505)9/20/2006 12:25:03 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217774
 
Hello hamoon, you are sounding upset, sounding a bit off-ish, irrational almost.

Upset? No.. Disappointed with you? A bit..

We started out discussing the maiming, pilfering, torturing, and killing that is external state-enabled in what was a cohesive Iraq, not quibbling over the foreign policy of Hong Kong or its neighbor, the PRC.

We were?? No.. I think YOU WERE.. Iraq was NEVER cohesive. Cohesion requires a mutual attraction between elements. And that has never really existed in Iraq.

If anything Iraq was a compacted society, where disparate groups/clans/tribes were forced to co-exist by what they perceived as an external power.

Only via a democratic process can such a cohesive and LEGITIMATE societal force be created, where the various elements find common ground and recognize the mutual benefit of remaining together, rather than separating.

The foreign policy of the PRC can more rather than less be summarized by non-interference

And if you believe this, you're deluding yourself. They very fact that they support non-democratic regimes and perpetuate their grasp on power is a form of interfering.

... are you sure you didn't mean milk powder factories?

Well, ask these folks, or just do a query for yourself (China, Sudan, Arms factories) to obtain the answer to your question:

Further complicating implementation of the CPA are the business interests of other nations, China first and foremost. Sudan is China’s largest overseas oil provider, while China is Sudan’s largest arms supplier and, as a veto-wielding permanent member of the UN Security Council, has helped thwart international attempts to respond more vigorously to the conflict in Darfur. China has invested more than fourteen billion dollars in Sudanese oil through the state-owned China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC).

Working with the Sudanese government to obtain security and the rights to drill, CNPC contributes Chinese-made tanks, fighter planes, bombers, helicopters, machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, firearms, and ammunition to the Sudanese military and SSDF. China has also established three arms factories in Sudan. A recent Amnesty International report confirms the links between China’s oil interests and arms dealing, stating “China's arms exports, estimated to be in excess of [US]$1 billion a year, often involve the exchange of weapons for raw materials to fuel the country's rapid economic growth.


refintl.org

So I'm not upset TJ.. I'm just laying out the facts so that your find if more difficult to avoid the uncomfortable reality.

Y'see.. I want the Chinese people to be properous, and I want them to be democratic. I don't want to see your country manipulated into supporting the very elements that will eventually seek your destruction.. namely Religious Islamist extremists.

Because do not delude yourself.. the Arabs still see the Chinese as Mongols. And nothing has a greater historical memory on their mindset than the remembrances of how the Mongols invaded and absolutely ravaged their world and destroyed the Caliphate. If you look in Arabic literature, you'll find relatively little historical reference to the Crusades. But look for references to the Mongol tyranny and you'll find references to where the mongols filled the streets with Arab blood.

Hawk