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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (16067)9/20/2006 1:37:18 PM
From: David Howe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
<<< Would we not expect in a gravity only collapse that the upper floors would be draped over the lower part of the rubble? The upper columns and and hat truss to be laying on top of the pile? with the floor pans stretched and beaten up across smashed trusses? Remember the upper floors were not crushed by 97 floors. They rode the building down and were only subjected to their own weight. >>>

Ok, drop your 3 floor simulation on top of a pile of steel and rubble and see what happens. I bet if you took a picture of the pile before and after the drop it wouldn't look much different. The 3 floors whether dropped from a helicopter or falling in a building collapse would fall at only slightly different speeds. And, in either case, the floors would smash right through the pile of steel and practically disappear.



To: Orcastraiter who wrote (16067)9/20/2006 5:07:50 PM
From: TigerPaw  Respond to of 20039
 
Remember the upper floors were not crushed by 97 floors. They rode the building down and were only subjected to their own weight.


As you like to point out,
every time that set of upper floors hit the next floor below some of the force was transmitted into breaking up the upper floors as well as smashing through the floor that was struck. After 80 of those collisions there wouldn't be any of it holding together.

In fact if you look at the video of WTC 2 where you can see the antenna to give a perspective it is clear that the upper floors were beaten to debris well before the collapse was half way finished.

TP