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To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (2421)	9/21/2006 11:37:33 AM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50729

And your point? I just spent about 15 minutes wasting my time listening to an Arizona DJ berate a popular mechanics employee who obviously wasn't very comfortable on the radio. Here's the points the DJ was making issue over: No release of films from the Pentagon crash. My response that the Popular Mechanics guy was unable to answer: There was the film released from the Pentagon camera. If there are other films, they're owned by an entity and not the US government. But so what? The question that CT's (conspiracy theorist) want answered is why they won’t show the film; with the fear that they will show that a missile hit the Pentagon. The question is stupid question. 1st the other videos probably show absolutely nothing as they suffer the same fate as the film that was released, security cameras record about 4 frames / second, the airplane was traveling at about 780 feet/sec. Do the math, you’d be lucky to catch anything on a surveillance camera even if it happened to be pointing in the correct direction. What the CT's ignore is that 95% of flight 77's aircraft was recovered and a positive DNA match of 184 of the 189 victims including the passengers of flight 77 was made. The question or claim (by CT's) makes about as much sense as me making the claim that a Death Ray blast from Mars caused the Pentagon explosion. It ignores the actual evidence. Additionally, the Ct's can't explain away the downed light poles and the damaged transformer with their cruse missile theory. Also, Dylan Avery (Bird man) want's you to think that the impact to the Pentagon was 16' diameter hole, but doesn't mention the 65' hole just to the left. Why? Because, it would totally debunk his current notoriety. (When are you guy's going to figure out that you've been had by a 22 year old kid?) # 2 The building 7 collapse: My Response: The CT's believe the government used controlled demolition to destroy the building. The building was heavily damaged and burned for over 7 hours and what both The popular mechanics writer and the dj were unaware of was that there were pictures: <chart>http://www.debunking911.com/7wtc.jpg</chart> In addition, seismic data also shows that the building took approximately 30 seconds to collapse, which is not the 6 seconds to collapse that the CT's claim. This debunks the CT's claim outright. Lastly they claim that Silverstein heavily insured the buildings, I guess they surmised that he stood to make a lot of money. Problem is he was under insured by $140M and he continues to pay property lease cost. Not a very good plan by him, huh? Again the CT's claim is just as valid as the claim that a Death Ray from Mars brought down build 7, there is no basis in logic or facts that support it. Finally, lets talk reality to you tin hat nut's (like trying to mix oil and water). The estimate is that it would take well over 4000 folks to be involved in a conspiracy the size that the TFHB (Tin Foil Hat Brigade) are claiming took place. From folks from American Airlines, United Airlines, Air traffic Control, demolition companies, to folks within buildings WTC 1, 2 and 7 that would have had to seen actual prima cord lines in the buildings. In addition, forensic teams, local fire and police teams. Yet, after 5 years, not one person has come forward and said something contrary to what most sane people understand happened. Additionally, Dylan Avery and the CT's have a total of ZERO Structural Engineers that support their claim. Zero! Does this make sense? Yes, but only to those that suffer BDS. Next time give me facts, instead of an Arizona Dj's "expert" opinion (what was his degree in anyhow?, pottery?). Otherwise I'm not wasting my time with it. Jim