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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (5495)	9/21/2006 11:40:03 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

Wrong. I never supported Chavez. I deliberately avoided going to Venezuela last year because of him. However, the rightwing in this country started the fight with him, and it was over oil contracts, not ideology. Our leaders should be mature enough to have mature dialogue with all other countries. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Chavez is only an enemy of the far right imperialistas though, not an enemy of America as a whole.

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (5495)	9/22/2006 11:25:17 AM
From: richardred	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224744

On Darfur, Hugo Chavez Asks for More Time to Study, While Planning West Africa Oil Refinery Byline: Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press at the UN UNITED NATIONS, September 20 -- Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela who is vying for a seat on the Security Council, said on Wednesday that he would need more time to study the question of Darfur before recommending sending UN peacekeepers or not. As a response to a question on Darfur from Inner City Press, he rattled off the names of African counties he has visited, and those to which he has been invited, including Zimbabwe. Chavez spoke of opening an oil refinery in West Africa, presumably through Venezuelan-controlled Citgo. He noted that Venezuela is an observer at the African Union, and said "we are observers, not players, in Africa... we do not want to act like we own the world." He said of Africa, as he said of Mexico and Colombia, that he loves it. But he did not answer on Darfur. Video here, Minutes 39 to 43. Red not blue berets Chavez did, however, predict that the price of oil would hit $200 a barrel if the U.S. tried to invade Venezuela, a possibility he ascribed to "your Devil President" (in Spanish, "su presidente diablo"). Perhaps for this reason, one correspondent for Japanese television, himself not Japanese, declined to answer Chavez as to where he was from. "This is not about nationality," the reporter answered. Chavez made light of it, saying don't be ashamed. He explicitly praised other Americans, naming Muhammad Ali, Abraham Lincoln, and Pete Rose, of whom he noted the disgrace of betting on baseball but "who could deny his talent." He held up a copy of Noam Chomsky's latest book, as he had in his speech earlier in the day to the General Assembly. (Click here for the speech, so far only in Spanish.) He listed American communities to which Venezuela has provided cut-rate heating oil, from Boston and Chicago to Harlem and The Bronx. He spoke again of baseball and the many home runs there. One correspondent recollected a past visit to the UN General Assembly in the late 1980s of a somewhat similar figure, then-Nicaraguan head of state Daniel Ortega. Ortega went to Brooklyn, lead the U.S. to limit the number and scope of visas given to Nicaragua the next year. This year, Venezuela like Iran has raised issues about the U.S.'s processing of visa applications. The UN Secretariat confirms receiving the complaints, but not what's been done about them. Fox News Wednesday morning lamented the UN allowing the presidents of Venezuela and Iran, to which it could have added Bolivia, to "spew their views" with the UN's megaphone. But this is the UN, and questions should be asked -- and answered. innercitypress.com