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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (304202)9/24/2006 3:34:05 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 1578491
 
Falwell says faithful fear Hillary Clinton more than Lucifer

09/24/2006 @ 11:19 am
rawstory.com
( Will Hillary bring the "End Times"? Is SHE the antiChrist? )

"Nothing will motivate conservative evangelical Christians to vote Republican in the 2008 presidential election more than a Democratic nominee named Hillary Rodham Clinton — not even a run by the devil himself," the L.A. Times reports in Sunday's edition.

"That was the sentiment expressed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, the longtime evangelical icon and founder of the once-powerful Moral Majority, during private remarks Friday to church pastors and activists as part of the Values Voter Summit hosted this weekend by the country's leading Christian conservatives," Peter Wallsten reports.

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"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate," Falwell said, according to the recording. "She has $300 million so far. But I hope she's the candidate. Because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton."

Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."

At that moment in the recording, Falwell's voice is drowned out by hoots of approval. But two in attendance, including a Falwell staff member, confirmed that Falwell said that even Lucifer, the fallen angel synonymous with Satan in Christian theology, would not mobilize his followers as much as the New York senator and former first lady would.

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An aide to Falwell said Saturday that the Lucifer reference was an "off the cuff" comment and that Falwell "had no intentions of demonizing her."



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (304202)9/24/2006 5:16:13 PM
From: 10K a day  Respond to of 1578491
 
4 dollars for a prescription ....YIKES!. If walmart did that it would be disruptive. they used to have laws against selling shlt below cost. ;)



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (304202)9/25/2006 3:25:07 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578491
 
Ted, > Canada has 22 million people vs the US's 270 million. Just by the numbers there would be a lot less new drugs out of Canada.....so your point is rather meaningless.

OK then, let me make my point in another way. What would happen if America imposed the same prescription drug price controls that Canada has? Simply by the numbers, America's health care costs would go way down. But then companies like Pfizer, Bristol-Myer, etc. would simply go out of business, as the price controls would more than wipe out their profits. Who's going to take over research for new drugs?


We don't need price controls......we have the FDA. People are going to Canada among other things to get drugs that were approved by Europe years ago.

As for the pharm. companies that you are expressing so much concern over.....and I can only hope that someday you will express half that concern for the poor of this country.........it will mean their margins will get tighter and they will not be as profitable. I have to assume you have no idea what a rip off American pharm. companies perpetuate on the American consumer. They tend to have very healthy margins. For an example, LLY has a profit margin of 21%; by comparison, INTC's is 18%. Until a drug goes generic which doesn't happen for years because of patent controls, most drugs cost a fortune. There was a woman in Seattle whose health insurance refused to pay for a new cancer drug she needed for her treatment. The weekly dose cost several thousand dollars.........years from now, when it goes generic, the cost probably will be hundreds of dollars. As for the woman, she had no choice but to forego the treatment.....she died shortly thereafter. Think its an unusual case? Think again. It happens all the time.

Why do you think we have trouble getting flu vaccine? Pharm. companies can't be bothered.......there's not enough money in it. The major problem facing some pharm. these days results from their patents running out while their pipelines are devoid of promising new drugs. But when they are operating at optimum levels, they make money hand over fist.