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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (204332)9/25/2006 9:23:17 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Newsweek Says Bush Not Clinton Weak vs. Al Qaida

msnbc.msn.com

Clinton Loses His Cool

Was the former president justified in blasting a Fox News interviewer who questioned his administration’s counterterrorism record?

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek
Updated: 3:29 p.m. CT Sept 25, 2006

Sept. 25, 2006 - Even Bill Clinton, who never met a camera he failed to charm, couldn't keep his rage out of public view any longer. Ever since ABC television aired its riveting but risibly fictive docudrama “The Path to 9/11” earlier this month, former Clintonites have been seething. The miniseries had laid much of the blame for the failure to get Osama bin Laden on Clinton and his supposedly wimpy national-security team. The Bush administration, meanwhile, is portrayed mostly positively, seen gearing up to take on bin Laden when 9/11 hits. No surprise there: “The Path to 9/11” was scripted by a conservative screenwriter named Cyrus Nowrasteh, who once took part in a panel at the right-wing Liberty Film Festival entitled “How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood's Next Paradigm Shift.”

So when Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace gently asked the former president “why didn’t you do more” to put Al Qaeda “out of business,” he sparked an unexpected blast. Clinton, who had granted Wallace an interview at his signature Global Initiative Forum in New York last week, accused the host of being a conservative hit man. The former president said his anti-bin Laden efforts had far exceeded those of the Bush administration before 9/11. “At least I tried. That’s the difference in me and some, including all of the right-wingers who are attacking me now,” Clinton said, thrusting his face into the mild-mannered Wallace’s. “They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try, they did not try.”

For the record, that is mostly true. Clinton and his national security advisor, Sandy Berger, who is ridiculed in the ABC mini-series for allegedly shrinking from efforts to assassinate bin Laden, regularly discussed the Al Qaeda problem and repeatedly pressed the U.S. military for more options against bin Laden. It was mainly the military, which feared another Desert One debacle, when eight U.S. commandoes died in a botched effort to rescue the American hostages in Tehran, that shrank from taking more aggressive action than cruise missile strikes. “No operation that was ever recommended to the president was ever turned down,” says Jim Steinberg, Berger’s former deputy and now dean of the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas in Austin.

And for the record, the Bush administration barely paid attention to bin Laden before 9/11, as documented by the 9/11 Commission and other inquiries. On Jan. 26, 2001—six days after Bush’s inauguration—an FBI report for the first time conclusively tied the USS Cole bombing in Yemen to Al Qaeda. A few weeks later, CIA Director George Tenet raised the stakes, calling bin Laden's global terror network "the most immediate and serious threat" to U.S. national security. Yet there was no retaliation for the Cole or any other Al Qaeda attack for eight months—the “principals” did not even hold a meeting on how to deal with the terrorist group—despite Tenet’s increasingly urgent warnings about an Al Qaeda attack in the summer of 2001. Even today, the Bush administration is spending more time, resources and energy on supposed state sponsors of terror, like Iraq, than on the terrorists themselves.

But, as is always the case with Bill Clinton, politics can’t be too far from his considerations. With Hillary Clinton expected to make a 2008 run, the former president and his wife have been going to great lengths to neutralize what they see as the “vast right-wing conspiracy” that almost brought Bill Clinton down in his second term. That has meant, for example, winning over ex-GOP foes one by one, inviting Laura Bush to speak at his forum, and buddying up to Fox News’ conservative owner, Rupert Murdoch. The charm campaign may also have been the reason for the former president deciding to grant his first-ever interview to Fox News Sunday.

But to Clinton, at least, Wallace seemed to be out to undermine those efforts, and not surprisingly, the Republican National Committee on Monday put out a sheet of talking points designed to raise questions about Clinton’s accusations against the TV interviewer. (In a bizarre twist during his on-air rant, Clinton even accused Wallace of setting up the interview “because you were going to get a lot of criticism from your viewers because Rupert Murdoch is supporting my work on climate change.”) Clearly, Clinton still has bitter feelings over the “fair and balanced” network’s coverage of him since the Monica Lewinsky scandal and his subsequent impeachment trial. Chris Wallace seem to have caught the brunt of it.

URL: msnbc.msn.com



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (204332)9/25/2006 11:26:01 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Is George W. Bush keeping Daddy out of jail?

by

Gerald Plessner

geraldplessner.com

September 25, 2006 -Will George W. Bush have to pardon his father so that George H. W. Bush may never be prosecuted for participating in a criminal conspiracy and violating Federal law in the months before the election of Ronald Wilson Reagan to the presidency and George H. W. Bush to the vice-presidency of the United States?

This question, which brings into question the legitimacy of the Reagan presidency, is much more significant than the details of an Arkansas land deal. They are raised by the facts contained in documents recently discovered by Robert Parry, an outstanding journalist who exposed many of the details of the law-breaking Reagan-Bush years, including the Iran-Contra scandal.

Americans who are upset by the criminal ethos of current Republican politicians need to understand that the Republican principles and conduct are nothing new.

The truth is that what happened to Al Gore in 2000 involves many of the same players and tactics involved in the defeat of Jimmy Carter in 1980 --- that a Republican criminal conspiracy assured the victory of Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush for president and vice president of the United States. But like all things Republican, the story wouldn't be complete without a cover up.

(Robert Parry is a distinguished journalist who did important work in exposing Republican machinations during the 1980 presidential election campaign. Parry continues to write and his work can be read at Consortiumnews.com. Much of what follows comes from his articles and exhibits on that site. All Americans owe him their gratitude for his excellent reporting.)

Shortly after taking office in January 2001, George W. Bush signed an executive order blocking the declassification of all records from the Reagan-Bush years. After September 11, 2001, the president signed an additional document giving former presidents, vice presidents and their heirs power over the release of such documents.

Though the election of Ronald Reagan and George Bush happened more than a quarter-century ago, more than most others it shaped the world we now live in. Voters, especially young voters, need to understand how the first of a number of massive electoral frauds have given Republicans the power they have today.

IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS - There is little disagreement that Jimmy Carter lost his 1980 bid for re-election because of the Iran Hostage Crisis. On November 4, 1979 and until January 20, 1981, Iranian students, after taking control of the United States Embassy in Tehran, captured 66 American diplomatic officials and private citizens, holding them hostage to demands upon the United States.

After extensive negotiations, eleven hostages were released and the 52 remaining hostages were held for 444 days. They were released on January 20, 1981 on Inauguration Day and shortly after the inauguration speech of Ronald Reagan. Reagan got the credit for freeing the hostages but he sent president Carter to represent him at the homecoming ceremonies, a magnanimous gesture.

President Jimmy Carter had, without success, made extensive efforts to gain the hostages' earlier release. Upon his orders, the U.S. military had mounted a rescue effort which ended in the humiliating crash of rescue helicopters and the deaths of eight American servicemen.

THE OCTOBER SURPRISE - In the middle of the presidential campaign in 1980, rumors surfaced that the Reagan campaign was planning an "October Surprise" to secure the hostages' release. Though the rumors were never confirmed by the national press, and investigations in both the Senate and House of Representatives found no basis for the allegations, we now know that they were true and that people at the highest levels of the Regan-Bush campaign were involved in a plot and lied about it.

Now the truth can be told. On October 18, 1980, George H. W. Bush, Republican candidate for vice president of the United States, flew to Paris to negotiate with representatives of Iran over the release of 52 hostages held by that country.

By doing so, Bush and his co-conspirators were in potential violation of the International Commerce Acts of 1798 which prohibit any American citizen or party from negotiating with a foreign power in matters of national policy or military action.

Although numerous Republican activists and two Congressional committees claimed that no such effort or trip was attempted, more than a dozen credible sources told of their knowledge of the trip and its results.

Bush, representing Ronald Reagan and himself, told representatives of the Iranian government, including cleric Mehdi Karrubi, that a Reagan administration would provide arms and other assistance to Iran in response to its release of the 52 remaining hostages.

According to reports by Robert Parry, ". . . Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe . . . said he saw Bush attend a final round of meetings with Iranians in Paris."

"Ben-Menashe said he was in Paris as part of a six-member Israeli delegation that was coordinating the arms deliveries to Iran. He said the key meeting had occurred at the Ritz Hotel in Paris."

"Ben-Menashe said the Paris meetings served to finalize a previously outlined agreement calling for release of the 52 hostages in exchange for $52 million, guarantees of arms sales to Iran, and unfreezing of Iranian moneys in U.S. banks. The timing, however, was changed, he said, to coincide with Reagan's expected Inauguration on Jan. 20, 1981."

THE ISSUES RAISED - The issues raised by this new information are both profound and simple. If the two candidates knew of a conspiracy to violate the laws of the United States, and evidence indicates that at lease one did, shouldn't they be held to account for their actions?

Do the people of the United States have a right to know the truth about their own history, particularly as it affects their relationship with countries with which we issues today?

Is the president acting honorably with the American people if he hides vital but not life-threatening information from them?

Does the United States of America owe something to the former hostages who suffered for a longer period than necessary for political purposes? Might a public apology be in order?

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Gerald Plessner is a Southern California businessman who writes regularly on issues of politics and culture. He would be pleased to hear from you and may be contacted at gerald@geraldplessner.com.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (204332)9/26/2006 12:14:48 AM
From: Dennis O'Bell  Respond to of 281500
 
All you have to do is live in Europe and follow the news there to realize how clueless Americans are about the rest of the world.

What percentage of our politicians even have a current passport again ?



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (204332)9/26/2006 12:54:18 AM
From: HH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
so, is this a Bush conspiracy???? or if we are really
open-minded we should realize that Newsweek (and others) are the ones shaping our world. The liberal ,
left wing press controls most all of what we read.

think about it.

and in the wise words of John Mayer, he is singing about
waiting on the world to change but says this....

And when you trust your television
What you get is what you got
Cause when they own the information, oh
They can bend it all they want


so really who does own the information and who is doing the bending.,???? I say the press manipulates way more
than the govt.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (204332)9/26/2006 9:55:03 AM
From: StockGamer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So you think the different Newsweek covers indicate a conspiracy to hide the truth from Americans, rather than a simple calculation of which cover will bring the most profit in different markets?