To: Ilaine who wrote (204392 ) 9/26/2006 2:24:31 PM From: Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 We're good on emergencies. Period. Beyond that, the rest of the world leaves us behind. Choice of providers? half the docs at my hospital aren't part of the hospital insurance plan. I can't even get the doc of my choice to care for me in my own hospital. Socialism? The VA is socialized. In many respects, the best place I ever worked. Infant mortality rate (All Ascending) Rank Country Value / Unit 1. Singapore 2.28 deaths/1,000 live births 2. Sweden 2.77 deaths/1,000 live births 3. Hong Kong 2.97 deaths/1,000 live births 4. Japan 3.28 deaths/1,000 live births 5. Iceland 3.31 deaths/1,000 live births 6. Finland 3.59 deaths/1,000 live births 7. Norway 3.73 deaths/1,000 live births 8. Malta 3.94 deaths/1,000 live births 9. Czech Republic 3.97 deaths/1,000 live births 10. Andorra 4.05 deaths/1,000 live births 11. Germany 4.20 deaths/1,000 live births 12. France 4.31 deaths/1,000 live births 13. Macau 4.39 deaths/1,000 live births 14. Switzerland 4.43 deaths/1,000 live births 15. Spain 4.48 deaths/1,000 live births 16. Slovenia 4.50 deaths/1,000 live births 17. Denmark 4.63 deaths/1,000 live births 18. Austria 4.68 deaths/1,000 live births 19. Australia 4.76 deaths/1,000 live births Belgium 4.76 deaths/1,000 live births 21. Liechtenstein 4.77 deaths/1,000 live births 22. Canada 4.82 deaths/1,000 live births 23. Luxembourg 4.88 deaths/1,000 live births 24. Netherlands 5.11 deaths/1,000 live births 25. Portugal 5.13 deaths/1,000 live births 26. United Kingdom geographyiq.com CAN THE U.S. AFFORD UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE (as in the UK) AND CAN THE U.S. RISK THE INFERIOR HEALTH CARE THAT MIGHT RESULT THEREFROM? (the below from another thread): In a study of 7,623 55-64 year olds, published in the May 3, 2006 issue of JAMA, Americans have more of every disease studied than matched counterparts in the UK. More than double the rate of diabetes, 105% higher in the US than the UK. 105% _ Diabetes _25% _ Hypertension _57% _ All Heart Disease _35% _ Myocardial infarction _65% _ Stroke _29% _ Lung disease _73% _ Cancer Disease and Disadvantage in the United States and in England _ jama.ama-assn.org While the less advantaged in both nations have poorer health than their wealthier countrymen, even the poorest in the UK are healthier than even the wealthiest Americans and can expect to live longer. The UK has a fattier diet but has a higher mean level of good HDL cholesterol and the percentage of those with a C-reactive protein level above 3.0 (a marker of cardiovascular inflammation) is 30.4% in the UK and 40.1% in America. In spite of this poor showing, the U.S. spends $5,274 per person on healthcare, more than double the $2,164 spent on healthcare per person in the UK. U.S. per capita income is 30% higher than the UK, but the study points to higher levels of stress as the cause of the higher incidence of all diseases studied. Namaste! JimMessage 22425665