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To: Dale Baker who wrote (29264)9/27/2006 12:47:43 PM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541337
 
A follow-up thought - this is where the lack of good grounding in social science lets the American political debate go astray. If someone mentions changing a tax rate for the rich, the right calls them a Marxist and a socialist. If someone else wants to redesign a domestic counterintelligence program, they are a Nazi and a fascist.

The people involved don't know what the terms mean, so no one stands up and says hey, that connection doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It is stupid and wrong. But it sounds good as an insult so the mud starts to fly, from both partisan sides.



To: Dale Baker who wrote (29264)9/27/2006 12:58:13 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541337
 
Marxism is based on the notion that capitalists extract unfair wealth from exploited laborers, and must be eliminated as a class through class struggle, to be replaced by a system where everyone works in socialist production for the greater good.

Well that's two thirds the same. Substitute "rich" for "capitalist" and drop the part about socialist production and you have the same thing. "Marxist" is just a brand name for a specific strain of it, whatever "it" is called, so casual people call it "Marxism" just like we call "tissues," "Kleenex." If you have a good single word that would substitute for it, I'd like to hear it. I'll bet you don't because otherwise you wouldn't have written a full sentence definition but rather simply supplied the word.

Can you cite any modern Democrats who advocate the demise of capitalism?

No, not the demise, rather the taming. Marxism Lite. And what is the root of Marxism Lite if not Marxism.