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To: Ilaine who wrote (204495)9/27/2006 5:37:04 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 281500
 
CB, you have re-invented a well-established fact of human nature. The political move from left to right as people age. You could also guess I was shorter when I was 15 and do you think I have gained or lost weight since I was 18? I don't know if it's possible to go from being a right winger when young to a left winger when old [though the definitions of right and left are so squishy these days, it can no doubt be achieved].

You can read all about the green light to Indonesia's invasion of East Timor. No news there. The day before, Ford and Kissinger met the bosses. Much the same as April Glaspie meeting Saddam before he invaded Kuwait [silly boy that he was].

Yes, I was a "left-winger" in my youth. Though really, a Libertarian then. I wasn't a union supporter and one-for-all and all-for-one together brothers onward to 1984 type. I thought I might well die in opposition to the repressive state if they were to try to conscript me into the army [it was a scary idea, but one I actually contemplated]. It was only in my 20s when I gained some direct insight into governments at work that I realized just how bad they are.

My "leftism" was in opposition to the entitlement of the ruling classes who saw the country as their personal fief. At that time, being a leftie was more of a libertarian political allegiance. I also opposed the royal family running the show. I was a UN supporter then, which is not to say I'm in favour of busy-body UNism. Just as one can be a USA supporter, but not in favour of Al Gore's ideas when he was [almost] president.

In NZ politics, I'm considered a fanatical rabid right winger. So it's interesting that you say my "true colours" are coming out. My colours are always true; notwithstanding tongue in cheek, joking, and ideas given for consideration rather than adoption. You don't need to hunt for secret motives. WYSIWYG. My screen name is my name [which seemed odd to the conspiracy hunters in the Great Globalstar Memorial Day Massacre]. You can look me up in the phone book. You can mail me a parcel bomb. [I think it's still legal to use the word bomb in cyberspace, though apparently the psychotic people who run airports and airlines spend all day looking for them but anyone using the b-word will be arrested for terrorism].

I am glad when communists lose and always have been. I do NOT like being subsumed in the morass of lowest common denominator, and ordered about by ignorant thugs who have got control of governments. Ford and Kissinger were like Pavlov's dogs = ring the "communist" bell and they started drooling. Indonesia pointed out the communists in East Timor and it was game over.

Remembering millions, I recall not only that communists such as Stalin, Mao and the National Socialists murdered millions [or starved them], but that the USA in Vietnam was instrumental in significant population reduction. B52 massive bombing over Hanoi probably saved a lot from communism. They certainly saved My Lai from going communist [as just one example] - Calley got let off official duties as a reward, and pardoned after a couple of years - a much better deal than the USA gives war criminals of other countries. Poor old Milosevic was taunted by lawyers for years until his heart gave out [talk about cruel and unusual punishment and the cruelest cut was that he was also a lawyer = rubbing salt into his wounds] and Saddam is in the same situation though his torment would be more effective in The Hague.

Mqurice